Schumi deliberately blocks Monaco quali

[RH1300S]

Then, either you are mistaken, or Schumacher has magical powers to know that Alonso, Kimi and Webber were behind him on a 'hot' lap. Look at the qual sector times at f1.com. Schumacher was on a VERY hot lap, at least at 1st split. According to your speculation, he could not know anything about the track status/position etc.

Good point. Now would manchild&cohorts or his "impartial" race steward friend care to answer this ?

Easy peasy..............

Whether or not MS was on a fast one or not, the fact is when he left the pits he knew he was on pole. No one else was ahead, so if anyone behind was impeded sufficiently, pole was his to keep. The lap times of the cars behind (and, indeed his) were irrelevant - a big RED HERRING, to be ignored (as the stewards rightly did).

From what I have read, MS had a red hot sector 1 - by sector 3 he was 0.8 sec DOWN - perhaps initially he was trying too hard to make the time and made a mistake at the left-hander before Rascasse. But I simply don't believe that he didn't arrive at Rascasse with the cynical plan to ruin any further laps. He saw the pre-Rascasse wobble as a chance to make a "mistake".

Are you trying to tell me that if he did the same thing on the last lap of the race whilst leading he wouldn't have got the car around the corner somehow. Even if he hadn't, he would not have sat there for some seconds before selecting reverse (although I think he "stalled" in a forward gear BTW).

This is the man who we have seen spin a full 360 on a straight and continue with barely any lost momentum. The man who seems to know exactly which gravel traps have escape roads behind them and always finds them if he finds himself off the road.

In fact on Sunday he managed to get around Rascasse something like 78 times without too much trouble - on his slowing down lap he managed it one handed waving to the crowd and he was still going faster than he was on Saturday. So, he wants us to believe he cocked up a corner that he can actually safely negotiate literally one handed

[wazojugs]

In fact on Sunday he managed to get around Rascasse something like 78 times without too much trouble - on his slowing down lap he managed it one handed waving to the crowd and he was still going faster than he was on Saturday. So, he wants us to believe he cocked up a corner that he can actually safely negotiate literally one handed

Spot on

[jgredline]

Then, either you are mistaken, or Schumacher has magical powers to know that Alonso, Kimi and Webber were behind him on a 'hot' lap. Look at the qual sector times at f1.com. Schumacher was on a VERY hot lap, at least at 1st split. According to your speculation, he could not know anything about the track status/position etc.

Good point. Now would manchild&cohorts or his "impartial" race steward friend care to answer this ?

Easy peasy..............

Whether or not MS was on a fast one or not, the fact is when he left the pits he knew he was on pole. No one else was ahead, so if anyone behind was impeded sufficiently, pole was his to keep. The lap times of the cars behind (and, indeed his) were irrelevant - a big RED HERRING, to be ignored (as the stewards rightly did).

From what I have read, MS had a red hot sector 1 - by sector 3 he was 0.8 sec DOWN - perhaps initially he was trying too hard to make the time and made a mistake at the left-hander before Rascasse. But I simply don't believe that he didn't arrive at Rascasse with the cynical plan to ruin any further laps. He saw the pre-Rascasse wobble as a chance to make a "mistake".

Are you trying to tell me that if he did the same thing on the last lap of the race whilst leading he wouldn't have got the car around the corner somehow. Even if he hadn't, he would not have sat there for some seconds before selecting reverse (although I think he "stalled" in a forward gear BTW).

This is the man who we have seen spin a full 360 on a straight and continue with barely any lost momentum. The man who seems to know exactly which gravel traps have escape roads behind them and always finds them if he finds himself off the road.

In fact on Sunday he managed to get around Rascasse something like 78 times without too much trouble - on his slowing down lap he managed it one handed waving to the crowd and he was still going faster than he was on Saturday. So, he wants us to believe he cocked up a corner that he can actually safely negotiate literally one handed

RH
That was fantastic. Well said

p.s. I was kidding about moving on to page 17

[Tom]

RH1300S wrote:

Autosport this week a VERY approximate transcript.

From Alex Zanardi's autobiography - a tale from F3 way back somewhere around 1989/1990. It seems that Zanardi another Italian & Schuey were dicing in what I understand was a title deciding race. "The German" (not clear if it was "the" German or another) caused an accident involving the three cars - Alex was out of the race and got out of his car, so too did Schuey..........then Michael realised the race was not going to be red flagged, so got back in his car, parked it on track, took the steering wheel off and left the scene of the crime - race stopped.

Someone should have chucked the book at him then.............

Hem, hem. viewtopic.php?t=2674&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
half way down, my post

[NickT]

OMG this thread is still going

[manchild]

OMG this thread is still going

Yes, yes... another record Schuey broke

[ketanpaul]

Guys, Can You please cut it out? Whether he did it intentionally or not does not matter now. The stewards punished him, he paid his penalty, made a fantastic comeback race and will now probably win the British GP. This thread can go on for another 100 pages. There can be no end to this argument. There will always be people who beleive in one side of the story and even more to beleive the other side.

So please..................................relax.................

[jaslfc]

but actually its quite funni.. 3-4 years ago when shumi was completely dominating f1.if he did this there sure wouldnt have been so many post. I dont know but last 2 years u suddenly see so many alonso supporters pop up!!

hope not to offend anyone but this is just a general obsevation

[tpe]

It's completely normal to have so much Alonso supporters. He IS the WDC and, BTW, an excellent driver. No mistakes, do not crack under presure, delivers when he has to (even with or without help from Fisico) good manners (somthing Schumi forgot at the Saturday evening) etc.

As far as the Schumi incident, I have to note that at 16Km/h YOU CANNOT loose your car, not even a bicycle. So, same on him, slatter me etc.

[Lightspeed]

Like I said.
Schumi is the Barry Bonds of F1

Really ? 'cause some dudes here .eem to think of him as the "Adolf Hitler" of F1.

P.S : Does anybody remember Germany's football goalkeeper Schumacher in the 1982 WC ?

[Tp]

I dont know but last 2 years u suddenly see so many alonso supporters pop up!!

Called Glory Fans!!

[Hudsonhawk.]

but actually its quite funni.. 3-4 years ago when shumi was completely dominating f1.if he did this there sure wouldnt have been so many post. I dont know but last 2 years u suddenly see so many alonso supporters pop up!!

hope not to offend anyone but this is just a general obsevation

About time you had the nerve to say something factual !! Too bad if you offend them.....the truth hurts!!

[RH1300S]

but actually its quite funni.. 3-4 years ago when shumi was completely dominating f1.if he did this there sure wouldnt have been so many post. I dont know but last 2 years u suddenly see so many alonso supporters pop up!!

hope not to offend anyone but this is just a general obsevation

About time you had the nerve to say something factual !! Too bad if you offend them.....the truth hurts!!

I have to answer this..........

I don't believe many people here as just shouting down Shumacher because Alonso is suddenly winning and we've all cahnged camps. Far from it, we are complaing about Schumacher's actions.

The reason we may have been silent a couple of years back???? Simple. Michael had a car where he could canter to wins with no challenge to speak of and a team mate who dutifully supported his every race...............HE HAD NO PRESSURE! We see it every time Michael is under pressure, he makes mistakes and he plays dirty. last year we didn't see it because frankly his car was so far off the pace he wasn't properly in a fight for anything worth fighting for (wins & championships).

The big tragedy is that the same man can produce stunningly brilliant drives when the pressure is tweaking him the right way..........

[jgredline]

Like I said.
Schumi is the Barry Bonds of F1

Really ? 'cause some dudes here .eem to think of him as the "Adolf Hitler" of F1.

P.S : Does anybody remember Germany's football goalkeeper Schumacher in the 1982 WC ?

barry bonds is NOT a good thing

[West]

I dont know but last 2 years u suddenly see so many alonso supporters pop up!!

Called Glory Fans!!

There are people like that with Schumacher and Ferrari.