Vodafone McLaren MP4-27 Mercedes

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Carmack
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Slightly widened radiator intakes on the upper photo.

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strange things inside the radiator opening

like vanes (you really have to zoom in)

why?

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New floor or is it just the angle. I thought in Jerez is was completely flat by the rear tyre?

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Looks like a sensor.

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114 Laps today by hamilton! Thats what im talking about... we are goin to see a strong McLaren at beginning of the 2012 season ;) cant wait for tomorrows programme and to see new bits and pieces added to the car, thanks for sharing photos guys, but did anyone notice that most of the zoom in pictures of the Mp4/27 are out of focus? is this intentionally? or someone needs photography lessons? XD http://f1zoom.co.cc/?year=2012&race=catalunya02212

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astracrazy wrote:strange things inside the radiator opening

like vanes (you really have to zoom in)

why?
Are these what you mean? I think these are KERS cooling inlets.
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Hmm. this better be the fastest car by AUS.. though it looks like RB are fastest for now.
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shelly wrote:What do yo u mean when you say "challenge"? The Coanda effect applies to round jet also.
How would you characterize the attachment of the flow to a surface in a Coanda Effect? I would say the greatest strength is when the surface is perpendicular to the flow axis.

Taking a tube section that is curved downward, if we travel 45 deg up one of the curved sides, the Coanda Effect is now only half as strong relative to the downward flow axis. At 90 deg up the wall the Coanda Effect is doing nothing to help the flow turn downward.

See if you follow, post questions and I will attempt to restate. Not easy to explain.

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brian, I think that we are not sharing the same basic ideas. If I find a good article on coanda effect with reference to round jets, I will post the link and we will start from that.
I have some doubts to iron ou about coand for myself; for example I remember reading somewhere that the classic example of the spoon being attracted to the tap water is wrong.

In the mentime, let me draw your attention to one thing: why do both mclaren and ferrari sport a convex ramp after the mandated circular exit of the exhaust pipe?
On the f2002 of 10 years ago that ramp was straight...
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shelly wrote:brian, I think that we are not sharing the same basic ideas. If I find a good article on coanda effect with reference to round jets, I will post the link and we will start from that.
I have some doubts to iron ou about coand for myself; for example I remember reading somewhere that the classic example of the spoon being attracted to the tap water is wrong.

In the mentime, let me draw your attention to one thing: why do both mclaren and ferrari sport a convex ramp after the mandated circular exit of the exhaust pipe?
On the f2002 of 10 years ago that ramp was straight...
On the F2002 though they were trying to aim the gasses just above the suspension arms; on the current McLaren and Ferrari they're trying to aim it at the floor.

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Fun with the kitchen torch... :twisted: ...

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I'd say they can turn that exhaust wherever they want. It's science!
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Pup wrote:Fun with the kitchen torch...

:twisted: I'd say they can turn that exhaust wherever they want. It's science!
Evidence based posting - thank you!

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Dear God. What exactly are you bending that with? As in, what's that round cylindrical thing at the bottom?
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Pup wrote:Fun with the kitchen torch...

[img]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/j ... t1.png[img]
[img]http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y167/j ... t2.png[img]

:twisted: I'd say they can turn that exhaust wherever they want. It's science!
U got it man! 8)
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