Mercedes AMG F1 W03

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Looks like it is just a plastic cover laying on the fairing, I don't think that is an actual part of it.

Edit: Ok, so it is zip-tied against the fairing. Hmm.. maybe to test the effect the fairing has on aero or cooling?

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No rear wing endplate extensions like seen on the mclaren/ferrari/rmr etc.. am a bit surprised. Also looks like that the mercedes is eating up its tyres preety fast. Only managing 4-5 good laps on soft tyres

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I may be wrong but i think that the w03 it´s going to be another big disappointment like was the w02.

They seem to have big issue with tyre degradation.

We'll see..
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MIKEY_! wrote:OK correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am) but this is what I think is going on in the middle of that diffuser.

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They are using that top exit to draw air out through the starter motor hole, which is angled to be an intake rather than the usual blown slot(I think the innovo concept has something similar)
I hope that's what they're doing, because that's exactly what I'm doing :D

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ringo wrote:I think mercedes are doing one of two things: sucking the air in the center of the diffuser through the starter hole on to the channel above it with the ejector effect.


I'm prescribing to the first one.


This is what I suggested a couple pages back. They have a vacuum effect from the starter hole. Brilliant IMO.

It seems the car is every bit as quick as anything out there for the first lap. Then of course the rear tires become about as useful as a chocolate teapot. Geometrically speaking, is it camber changes that are needed or something more inboard with the A-arm pick-up points? I'm thinking the rears are overheating....

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Rear tire issues. ... As per nico's comments in the video and with this years loss of EBD is it just a matter of changing the driving style to match this years car? Is it affecting both drivers?
In a pit radio communication last year I remember Michael's engineer telling him to quit covering the throttle during corner transitions. Nullifying EBD . From years back F1 magazine had throttle traces of Rubens and Michael. Rubens a rh foot braker and Michael a lh braker. Michael always overlapped his braking and throttle. Could that have also been the reason for Michaels lack of qualifying pace, when EBD was at its strongest?

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Guys, that's not a wheel fairing. It's part of the brake system....

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Rosberg completed a race simulation last week(colder conditions, less grip)
Colder conditions do not mean less grip in Barcelona. Barcelona is faster at 10:30 than at 16 for example...
It's not wise to compare Rosberg'S sim with Grosjean's, for many many reasons.

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Blackout wrote:
Rosberg completed a race simulation last week(colder conditions, less grip)
It's stupid to compare Rosberg'S sim with Grosjean's, for many many reasons.
I disagree.

It will not be 100% accurate, for sure. But its the best available comparison.
As for the temps, Rosbergs simulation was conducted at 18-20 degrees ambient temp according to Auto sport. Grosjeans times were around 24 degrees if I remember correctly whilst reading the Autosport updates.

So the temperatures are slightly out of kilter, but Grosjean had the benefit of a track that had a full 5 days track running to conduct his race simulation. The track will have been far more rubbered in than the track Rosberg had for him to set his times.

Note also that I did not draw any conclusions on the W03 in relation to Lotus. Merely I pointed out to all the doomsayers that yea, Mercedes have wear issues. But that in the most direct comparison we can make at this point it looks alright compared to Lotus.
More could have been done.
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NonNewtonic wrote:We want pictures! We want pictures!
all i can find at the moment
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Isn't that a new floor?

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MercAMGF1Fans wrote:
NonNewtonic wrote:We want pictures! We want pictures!
all i can find at the moment
http://www.motorsport-total.com/bilder/ ... 850482.jpg

This is not from today, the new one doesn't have an opening in the engine cover....or at least not supposed to have one

Edit: Apparently it is from today... maybe Automotor und Sport had it wrong about the engine cover
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Schulteiss wrote:Isn't that a new floor?
looks like it.. you can see that "streak/raised/bump" towards the back

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Ok, so far no visible changes. Maybe the tweet posted yesterday was false?

edit: Now I read that this pic isn't from today. Has anyone seen the updated version yet?
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