Scuderia Ferrari 2012

[banibhusan]

Basically what he means is forget this season. Rather use this year's races as test sessions for a better car next year and in the process understand where exactly you are lacking in terms of the design and development process. Isn't it?

[bhall]

Well said.

[WhiteBlue]

I'm not a fan of Alonso, but I never wished him such a disastrous start to a season as he is having now with Ferrari. The sooner FIAT fires Montezemolo and makes a new start with a new chairman at Ferrari the better. The pre Todt era is clearly back or as Lauda would put it the Italian rot.

[kenny5]

You can't do anything if you don't have the trust that the car will stay on track if you push it more.

at the end of the day they've both got the same car to deal with if one driver is slower than the other, by a second, then thats down to the driver.

And - if one driver ends up in the kitty litter - then that must also be the drivers fault ??

[Gerhard Berger]

I'm not a fan of Alonso, but I never wished him such a disastrous start to a season as he is having now with Ferrari. The sooner FIAT fires Montezemolo and makes a new start with a new chairman at Ferrari the better. The pre Todt era is clearly back or as Lauda would put it the Italian rot.

Please spare us your agenda. Montezemolo was there during the glory years too.

Italian rot - sure all those italians like Fry, Tombazis and Hennel are to blame.

[bhall]

Montezemolo was there during the glory years too.

Was there, too? He orchestrated them.

Now he needs to do it again.

[Powershift]

It is sad for the fans that we can never get the top drivers in relatively equal cars so that we can enjoy close racing.

[timbo]

And then Massa plain suck. If the car is not top notch he can´t deliver.

But why put him out with 15 minutes worth of fuel and same tyres if the car is unstable?

[Powershift]

Montezemolo was there during the glory years too.

Was there, too? He orchestrated them.

Now he needs to do it again.

He orchestrated nothing, his biggest contribution was signing the checks.

[banibhusan]

So, the conclusion from all this debate is that, Ferrari have again missed the chance to win the championship, in what could be the last F1 season ever.

Forgot the Doomsday theory (End of the world)??

[banibhusan]

He orchestrated nothing, his biggest contribution was signing the checks.

I guess what he meant was, he decided to go for a complete restructuring of the team and brought in all the key people from rival teams along with Schumacher. And that led to the such a successful era for the team.

[Gerhard Berger]

So, the conclusion from all this debate is that, Ferrari have again missed the chance to win the championship, in what could be the last F1 season ever.

Forgot the Doomsday theory (End of the world)??

Well the rule changes were supposed to play into our hands this year...

[bhall]

He orchestrated nothing, his biggest contribution was signing the checks.

Yes, he hired and subsequently paid the right people for the job. That's orchestrating.

EDIT:

I guess what he meant was, he decided to go for a complete restructuring of the team and brought in all the key people from rival teams along with Schumacher. And that led to the such a successful era for the team.

I'm beginning to think you should be my spokesman.

[banibhusan]

Well the rule changes were supposed to play into our hands this year...

Well yes. But the new radical car design wasn't..

[Gerhard Berger]

I think it´s all down to bad timing. Last year they missed the EBD train, they took the decision to sack Costa and some more and go aggressive this year. Then EBD were banned for this year but taht decision came way to late for Ferrari, they had choosen their route.

Had they stuck to orginal 2011 concept and refined it to 2012 they would have been fine.

And then Massa plain suck. If the car is not top notch he can´t deliver.

not poor timing - poor management from the team principal and technical director. They have to chose the right path, and not go down blind alleys. They bowed to the pressure of the media and went radical, and a fired a talented person like Costa along the way.