Red Bull RB8 Renault

[Owen.C93]

New floor. Any more questions where the exhaust is going? Don't believe so.

[img]http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/182/rb8melgp.jpg[img]

Teams used different shaped floors well before they blew it with an exhaust.

[hardingfv32]

Would there be any benefit to channeling a significant amount of air into the driver compartment?

No. There is no science demonstrating an improvement.

Brian

[hardingfv32]

[quote="Crucial_Xtreme"]New floor. Any more questions where the exhaust is going? Don't believe so.

1) Did both cars use the same exhaust tip layout Sat?

2) Which layout is the above modification associated with?

3) Why is this change anymore indicative of side-pod air flow or exhaust flow usage?

Brian

[myurr]

Could the things have gone this way?

It's a wonderful conspiracy theory but the clarification from the FIA didn't stop Red Bull from blowing the diffuser, only from blowing off throttle. So yeah that would cause some instability but it shouldn't make it worse than any of the other cars and on corner exit the Red Bulls would be as planted as ever.

I think the truth is that this year the things that set the Red Bulls apart are no longer viable, and McLaren have done a better job of adapting to the new rules. McLaren's exhaust solution looks more elegant and efficient whilst achieving the same end result. Their whole car also looks a lot more stable and easier to drive.

Guess we'll find out tomorrow how much of this is reflected in race pace.

[eurocentric]

New floor. Any more questions where the exhaust is going? Don't believe so.

1) Did both cars use the same exhaust tip layout Sat?

2) Which layout is the above modification associated with?

3) Why is this change anymore indicative of side-pod air flow or exhaust flow usage?

Brian

1) No idea

2) Ask me again

3) Pardon?

4) Pointless as you didn't ask yet another question to warrant this answer...

A Name

[Crucial_Xtreme]

New floor. Any more questions where the exhaust is going? Don't believe so.

[img]http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/182/rb8melgp.jpg[img]

Teams used different shaped floors well before they blew it with an exhaust.

And that little tidbit has what to do with the RB8 and what they're trying to do with their exhaust?

[Owen.C93]

New floor. Any more questions where the exhaust is going? Don't believe so.

[img]http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/182/rb8melgp.jpg[img]

Teams used different shaped floors well before they blew it with an exhaust.

And that little tidbit has what to do with the RB8 and what they're trying to do with their exhaust?

Because it doesn't mean that it's a "fact" that they are blowing the diffuser. I'm not saying that they aren't, but changing the floor is in no way absolute proof that they are blowing it.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Because it doesn't mean that it's a "fact" that they are blowing the diffuser. I'm not saying that they aren't, but changing the floor is in no way absolute proof that they are blowing it.

Well it's a fact they are getting the exhaust to the floor. What's not fact is where it's going or where they want it to go. And while yes teams have always changed/added new parts to the floor when they weren't blowing the floor, I'd say it's a little more than mere coincidence they've brought a tweaked version of the exhaust outlet, the bridge and toying with the floor around the rear tyre for common lateral airflow. But this is of course just my opinion.

[AdrianoZed]

Guys yesterdays Webber did a short interview with ch ONE, he said he was happy with his drive in qualy and thats the best he could have done without KERS.
If thats true that means they are not far off Mclaren when they do get KERS sorted.
And its only been mentioned that Webber didnt have kers, and vettel with kers did similar lap times?!

[thisisatest]

Would there be any benefit to channeling a significant amount of air into the driver compartment?

i suspect that air going into the driver compartment is neutral-ish, but the air being removed from the step on the nose lowers drag. i think its exit in the driver compartment is just the most convenient place.

[djos]

Guys yesterdays Webber did a short interview with ch ONE, he said he was happy with his drive in qualy and thats the best he could have done without KERS.
If thats true that means they are not far off Mclaren when they do get KERS sorted.
And its only been mentioned that Webber didnt have kers, and vettel with kers did similar lap times?!

Vettel had KERS otherwise Renault would have apologized to him too:

(Renault) CYRIL DUMONT: “First of all we’re pleased to be back on track, but of course we would have preferred to be in a higher position for tomorrow. Apologies to Mark who suffered from a KERS issue during qualifying; he could have been P2 or P3, so it’s a big shame. For Seb we were not able to be in a better position, maybe he suffered from the lack of running this morning. It’s the first race tomorrow and many things can happen – so we’ll see what we can do.”

[munudeges]

I don't know why they're apologising when Red Bull have their own battery system, they make it and that's where the problem usually is.

[Giblet]

Might be a good idea to let Renault know they apologized in error

[MIKEY_!]

Or maybe this time it was the Renault supplied bits that broke. They don't normally break but Renault don't normally apologize either.

[univex]

MW indicated on ONE HD interview with Daryl Beatie that they have a problem with balance on both cars. Balance is fine going into a corner, and during, though not coming out of the corner. MW and SB lacking complete confidence on corner exit.
For me this adds weight to the earlier discussion around RBR having to ditch the blown exhaust loop hole.

MW also talked of the need to gap the Mercedes powered car before the DRS zones. Obviously concerned at the lack of straight line speed.