Chinese GP 2012 - Shanghai

[Pup]

Well it caused problems for the guys who knew better than to go off line, too.

[myurr]

Interesting thought occurs - had that Red Bull had a stalled front wing like on the Mercedes then would it have pitched back down like that or would it have flipped?

[Lycoming]

Irrelevant, DRS was not activated. In any case it probably would have had the same result, perhaps with a bit more rise. The stalled front wing just drops downforce a bit. Crucially, it does not add lift. The car would have to go past 90 degrees vertical and it is nowhere near doing so here.

[bhall]

[Never mind. It's a new day.]

[Goran2812]

Just a taught about Webber and his racing that came to my mind while watching todays race... I'm sure many will agree... The guy is so precise when in battle for position... Surgically precise to be exact... It's actually quite amazing to watch him battle with the others and see him drive 10 cm by the side of the other guy and be able to react so quick and adjust to the situation and follow it till the end... Amazing

[myurr]

Irrelevant, DRS was not activated. In any case it probably would have had the same result, perhaps with a bit more rise. The stalled front wing just drops downforce a bit. Crucially, it does not add lift. The car would have to go past 90 degrees vertical and it is nowhere near doing so here.

I think you're missing the point. I know DRS was not active in this instance, but in a similar incident is possible elsewhere such as two cars coming together during an overtake, or with someone running wide during qualifying.

It also doesn't matter about the stalled wing not producing lift, the floor will provide enough lift at that angle. The only reason the nose came back down on Webber's car was because the front wing had enough downforce to counteract the lift generated by the rest of that car at that angle of attack. The stalling of the wing will reduce that lift and increase the likelihood of it taking off and flipping like we've seen some cars do in other series.

[Ray]

It also be because Webber got out of the throttle.

[sAx]

Just a taught about Webber and his racing that came to my mind while watching todays race... I'm sure many will agree... The guy is so precise when in battle for position... Surgically precise to be exact... It's actually quite amazing to watch him battle with the others and see him drive 10 cm by the side of the other guy and be able to react so quick and adjust to the situation and follow it till the end... Amazing

Someone (Button?) said something similar recently i.e. Webber is the toughest race out there and does not give 1mm more than is absolutely necessary.

sAx

[Nando]

what i like with Webber is as Goran mentioned. A clean driver even in the fiercest of battles.

But also, his fighting spirit. He´s a true fighter like Hamilton and Alonso.

Funny that you mention that Goran, my commentator said the same thing when not passing Vettel but there was someone he passed on the outside of T6.

[red748]

@ myurr,

They haven't fixed the excessive marbling problem however.

Shoot me down, if you feel inclined to, but I feel that
the marbles were excessive today and overtaking suffered
as a result.

[foxmulder_ms]

Awesome race. Mclaren was soooo wrong with their 3-pit-stop strategy but luckily has a really fast car.

[WhiteBlue]

@ myurr,

They haven't fixed the excessive marbling problem however.

Shoot me down, if you feel inclined to, but I feel that
the marbles were excessive today and overtaking suffered
as a result.

Count me in on that criticism. I think the tyre design is artificial and acutally a bit dangerous as witnessed by Alonso almost causing a high speed collision with one of the Saubers.

[Hail22]

@ myurr,

They haven't fixed the excessive marbling problem however.

Shoot me down, if you feel inclined to, but I feel that
the marbles were excessive today and overtaking suffered
as a result.

Count me in on that criticism. I think the tyre design is artificial and acutally a bit dangerous as witnessed by Alonso almost causing a high speed collision with one of the Saubers.

Agreed, Its deplorable the amount of marbles. I don't even think in the days of the Goodyear F1 Tyres had that kind of marbling?

[jamsbong]

It looks like a funny car drag race!

[Speedster]

Very interesting race. Exciting start, after that I expected a lot of action on the straight but that never really materialized, but the way the tires behaved had a big influence on the action obviously.

Great to see so many cars so close to each other. And I was happy DRS wasn't working. If it had been working, it would be nothing more than a procession from quickest to slowest probably.

Few observations. McLarens were fast, but not in the same league they looked in in the first two races, others were close. Mercedes was clearly the fastest, although the car they had on the track had clean air for 56 laps, will have also helped his tires last. Great first win for Rosberg though, well-deserved.

The shockers for me were Raikkonen and Sauber. I've no idea what Renault/Lotus/Whatever it is were thinking of but that didn't work. Raikkonen must be frustrated with the strategy, that two stop was based on an alternate universe where tires last and where there is no world hunger problem probably.

Alonso on his position today, couldn't work anything special, even made a small mistake to hold the Saubers behind him. Also glad, although I'm not a fan, to see Massa doing a relatively uneventful weekend. No result to remember, but not completely outclassed either and that might even be a positive for him.

Saubers went backwards, they might need to revise their strategy too. Their drivers were also better on Saturday than on Sunday, although Perez has been a bit erratic all weekend.

All in all very enjoyable race, great season so far. Undecided about the Bahrein discussion, but looking forward nonetheless, four weeks without racing would've been too much.