WhiteBlue wrote:bhallg2k wrote:I don't know that I agree that the system is useless, but saying it's not useless because they took the trouble to create it is nonsensical. I'm sure Red Bull and Ferrari both went to great lengths to design and implement their useless exhaust systems. That was definitely the case for Renault's front-exit exhaust.
Basing a judgment of worth on the vehement protestations of rivals is equally pointless. Protesting is easy; it requires only a word processor and a protest fee.
You seem to have a point there although you suggest that Mercedes had a similar level of complexity as Renault had with the exhaust. Perhaps they were designing something much simpler that can easily be computed with reasonable accuracy with a CFD system? The exhaust with it's thermal implications appears much more complex. McLaren initially also got it wrong.
No, I was addressing this fallacy.
WhiteBlue wrote:Merc have the system on the W03 and they would not have gone to a massive design effort if it were as useless as you say. Equally they would not have been attacked as vehemently if the system was useless.
Saying, in effect, "they built it, therefore it must work," is, frankly, just intellectual laziness, to borrow an expression from another member.
WhiteBlue wrote:Btw I think that "DDRS" is a much better expression than "Daffy Duct" which isn't defined anywhere.
I know. That's called originality. I rather like it.
Besides, Daffy Duct has a nice ring to it. And given that the W03's nose is at least evocative of the famous cartoon character, I think I'm gon' stick with it, ok?
(I'm purposefully staying away from the "amplified/non-amplified" portion of the discussion because, first, I don't particularly care and, second, I'm so confident in my view of the device that everything else really doesn't matter at all.)
