Pastor Maldonado has secured the first Venezuelan F1 victory ever and the first Williams win since Juan Pablo Montoya in 2004. Home driver Fernando Alonso finished in second place after a race long battle while Kimi Raikkonen finished a close third.
Why on earth would anyone do that, when they're already dominating the field?Redragon wrote:I am not saying he knew exactly the quantity but he probably knew they were running low of fuel to secure pole and take the risk of having enough fuel at the end. Sometimes works sometimes not. And this one is the second it happen.
Yeah. At max a driver would be told about the fuel load. But I really don't believe Lewis could have made fuel calculations on his own and decide whether it would be sufficient or not. He will rely on his engineers on this and if they say it's sufficient he will have to oblige.beelsebob wrote:You think the driver knows absolutely everything about exact fuel quantities going into the car, and how much a lap takes, and ...? You honestly think hamilton would have said take extra fuel out when he was dominating the field? Madness.Redragon wrote:But he knows situation, I don't think he is not aware.beelsebob wrote:Well, it's hardly him that needs to understand it is it – it's not like he personally fuels the car, or even dictates how much must go in.
I think with an extra a bit of fuel williams would have been quiet close. And having Button out of the p10 and a williams polebeelsebob wrote:Why on earth would anyone do that, when they're already dominating the field?Redragon wrote:I am not saying he knew exactly the quantity but he probably knew they were running low of fuel to secure pole and take the risk of having enough fuel at the end. Sometimes works sometimes not. And this one is the second it happen.
The amount of time extra fuel weight costs you around barcelona is pretty well known. As mentioned above, to drop back 0.6 seconds, he would need an extra 20 kilos on board – enough for 10-15 laps at full pelt!Redragon wrote:I think with an extra a bit of fuel williams would have been quiet close. And having Button out of the p10 and a williams polebeelsebob wrote:Why on earth would anyone do that, when they're already dominating the field?Redragon wrote:I am not saying he knew exactly the quantity but he probably knew they were running low of fuel to secure pole and take the risk of having enough fuel at the end. Sometimes works sometimes not. And this one is the second it happen.
can change everything psycologically speaking and more for the press. So the risk it is worth to take.
But 0.6 seconds is something like 20kg of fuel. That's enough for a LOT of laps (edit: it's about 13% of the race distance, or 8.8 laps - using a very very rough calculation), not just one. So the risk really is not worth taking, and the team wouldn't have deliberately made that mistake.Redragon wrote:I think with an extra a bit of fuel williams would have been quiet close. And having Button out of the p10 and a williams polebeelsebob wrote:Why on earth would anyone do that, when they're already dominating the field?Redragon wrote:I am not saying he knew exactly the quantity but he probably knew they were running low of fuel to secure pole and take the risk of having enough fuel at the end. Sometimes works sometimes not. And this one is the second it happen.
can change everything psycologically speaking and more for the press. So the risk it is worth to take.
Skywalker@ wrote:Interesting:
However, Rosberg did opt to set a flying time using new tyres on the left hand side of his car and scrubbed tyres on the right side and he found himself 1.3 seconds off the pace of Hamilton at the climax of the session.
Exactly my point – no one sane in that position would take that risk... Thus, the likelihood is that them taking that risk is not the explanation... Instead, they may genuinely have had warnings come up about the car... They may genuinely have misscalculated the amount of fuel burn... They may all kinds of other things.Redragon wrote:So it is so clear the advantage, why they took the risk for second time?
Skywalker@ wrote:Interesting:
However, Rosberg did opt to set a flying time using new tyres on the left hand side of his car and scrubbed tyres on the right side and he found himself 1.3 seconds off the pace of Hamilton at the climax of the session.
The car wasn't short fueled at all. The teams would know that from the time Hamilton went out on his second run! No point in running on fumes in Q3. An extra kg won't hurt the times that much.myurr wrote: But 0.6 seconds is something like 20kg of fuel. That's enough for a LOT of laps (edit: it's about 13% of the race distance, or 8.8 laps - using a very very rough calculation), not just one. So the risk really is not worth taking, and the team wouldn't have deliberately made that mistake.
Most likely there was a small fault or miscommunication where they ended up short fuelling the car. It would NOT have been deliberate or calculated, so stop with the irrational accusations unless you have a plausible explanation for why they'd do it.
Not sure about showers, but drivers in the interviews said that temp would be much cooler than today.Teechnical wrote:Are showers expected tomorrow at Montmelo?
