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Pastor Maldonado has secured the first Venezuelan F1 victory ever and the first Williams win since Juan Pablo Montoya in 2004. Home driver Fernando Alonso finished in second place after a race long battle while Kimi Raikkonen finished a close third.
Because he won't get his tyres in the window like De La Rosa will? d'ohbanibhusan wrote:Why not NK? He also deserves to win a race.
wheelgunWilliamsF1 wrote:What did LH run over during his first pitstop
Nein!raymondu999 wrote:banibhusan wrote:
wheelgunWilliamsF1 wrote:What did LH run over during his first pitstop
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7LJ44UPrT4[/youtube]Hail22 wrote:
It was his right rear tyre that was taken off...the mechanic was a bit lazy and didn't move it enough so when he moved the new tyre clipped the old one.
(Team radio when he asked if any mechanic was hurt).
look at it again...and watch the mechanic he craps himself after dropping the wheel while Hamilton was driving off...you can see his body language going "oh crap:...oh look there is a big black round object bobbing up...to which the mechanic grabs it...lord and behold...A TYRE! its a miracle!raymondu999 wrote:The replays looked very much like he ran over (not clipped) a wheelgun (not a tyre). There was a distinct moment when the rear wheels left the ground in the slowmo replay. It was at ground level - and it was quite clearly a wheelgun.
I agree,I think it's already in place but there's no doubt Madonaldo was podium place worthy without the Pirelli Lottery.Diesel wrote:Can't help but feel a Formula 1 victory is going to be incredibly devalued by the end of the season.
Maybe to you but with respect, I want to see motor racing as a sport not an entertainment.If a car wins by 2 laps that's fine by me if the car/driver combo is simply better and that's where they deserve to be.mx_tifoso wrote:I can't deny that this tyre lottery situation is making the season enjoyable!
cheapracer wrote:I agree,I think it's already in place but there's no doubt Madonaldo was podium place worthy without the Pirelli Lottery.Diesel wrote:Can't help but feel a Formula 1 victory is going to be incredibly devalued by the end of the season.
Of course the Pirelli press release indicates it has the support of the fans, they didn't ask me apparently ....
Have to agree with cheapracer here. I like seeing standout performances. If everyone in the field has one, then... none of it stands out, relatively speaking. I like the races where, for example, you had Alonso and Vettel in Singapore 2010 pulling 1.1s a lap consistently for 61 laps from the rest of the field. The Hamilton 2008 Silverstone where everyone was getting raped head to toe in the rain. If everyone has one - then it's like my explanation above.cheapracer wrote:Maybe to you but with respect, I want to see motor racing as a sport not an entertainment.If a car wins by 2 laps that's fine by me if the car/driver combo is simply better and that's where they deserve to be.mx_tifoso wrote:I can't deny that this tyre lottery situation is making the season enjoyable!
I however am against stupid technical rules that have made passing so difficult in recent history.
Not true, in the end, a lot of teams have build fast cars and the top cars aren't perfect. The williams is better in comparison to other cars than the F2009, but no-one said racing was a lotery when that car scored a winn.zyphro wrote:http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 6812_n.jpgChuckjr wrote:His car was just really dialed--like Vettle last race, and Nico before. Same could happen to anyone in Monaco. I don't think anyone can predict who it's gonna be. Complete crap shoot. Anybody's game.
2008 Would like a word with you... true it is only 5 manufacturers but...Miguel wrote:The question is: Did Alonso throw away the race by pushing to catch Pastor too hard on the beginning? Also, I thought Ferrari made a mistake with the last pit of Alonso. Seeing as Pastor was behind Kimi, they could have tried to have an extra lap advantage on the tyres. Guess I'll never know.
Regarding the Pirellis, I have mixed feelings. However, only good cars (and Ferrari in a downpour) have won. What's perhaps surprising is that Lotus haven't won yet. I'll be damned if we don't have six different cars winning races this year, for the first time since... since... 1982?
Not quite, 1983 had 6 different winners, and 1982 had 7. I'm not going to check it, but 1982 is possibly the season with most winners (manufacturers and drivers) ever.
I think the fact that both Hamilton and Vettel's cars were dialed in well enough that they worked for both qualifying and the race, shows that there is a way to make the tyres work with the car in a wider environmental window than most people have managed so far this season. Further proof of that is Lotus' apparent wider window of operation with the tyres compared to most of the other teams. Teams just haven't quite found out how.Chuckjr wrote:His car was just really dialed--like Vettle last race, and Nico before. Same could happen to anyone in Monaco. I don't think anyone can predict who it's gonna be. Complete crap shoot. Anybody's game.
So you are saying that only 2 teams are to win GPs in a season, while the rest even if capable of winning races shouldn't be?raymondu999 wrote:I don't like it to be too open. I didn't even like the 2010 title fight. Title fights and GP victories should be something special - a revered event for a very exclusive club. It's like credit cards. Most have gold cards, and fewer have platinum cards (GP victories). Fewer still have the Amex black cards (world titles). If everyone has a platinum card, what the hell's a platinum card? I mean, in my view - it's all relative, and we like seeing how there are a group of people (the Alonsos, Hamiltons, Vettels etc) can rise up above the rest of the field and produce godly performances.
If anyone and everyone finds it easy to win - which, after Perez and Alonso in Malaysia, Rosberg in China and Maldonado here, I don't feel anything special about it - it''s good to have underdog victories, but not every other race weekend IMO.
I mean - Maldonado saying he could realistically mount a title charge now? I'll say no more.
Have to agree with cheapracer here. I like seeing standout performances. If everyone in the field has one, then... none of it stands out, relatively speaking. I like the races where, for example, you had Alonso and Vettel in Singapore 2010 pulling 1.1s a lap consistently for 61 laps from the rest of the field. The Hamilton 2008 Silverstone where everyone was getting raped head to toe in the rain. If everyone has one - then it's like my explanation above.cheapracer wrote:Maybe to you but with respect, I want to see motor racing as a sport not an entertainment.If a car wins by 2 laps that's fine by me if the car/driver combo is simply better and that's where they deserve to be.mx_tifoso wrote:I can't deny that this tyre lottery situation is making the season enjoyable!
I however am against stupid technical rules that have made passing so difficult in recent history.
IMO it especially doesn't work in entertainment based on sports or some sort of competition because everyone is rooting for someone, and with such uncertainty in the formbook, it's frustrating to see the one you're rooting for not being competitive. Not all people watch just to see exciting racing - some watch to see their rooted-for driver excel.
