2012 Monaco GP - Monte Carlo

[marcush.]

a formula 1 driver is NOT your usual unawares opponent in traffic....I can tell from first experience in racing that some drivers have that extra sense of awareness-or anticipation -to know exactly what´s going on around them .
Call it quick chess or what ever ...when things develop unexpected usually this ends in a crash -see Schumacher in Barcelona,but Grosjean simply ignored the situation he was in and closed a door that certainly was big enough for another car .

[FrukostScones]

after seeing this over and over again its 65/35 GRo/ALO :

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xr59yi ... jean_sport

i meant this at around 0:10
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xr5ao7 ... crash_auto

[andartop]

I think the only thing left in that sort of situation, where the driver has retired from the race, is possibly a championship points deduction?

Thought so as well!!!

But what if the offender doesn't have enough points, or any points?

I mean, it seems pretty straightforward to me that any penalty should be heavily dependent on the crime, the consequences and the specifics of each incident.

For example, it was very obvious in Barcelona that Schumi really got caught out by how early Senna had to brake: he surely would have avoided crashing into him if he could, and he surely lost more than Senna really, who was going backwards at that stage.

On the contrary, Maldonado's bullying in Monaco should have been punished even more harshly, as it was deliberate, entirely avoidable, and he had a previous history...

But I guess applying some common reason would be too much to ask from the FIA, wouldn't it?

I mean, we're all talking here as if we all know better, but we can hardly ever agree on any incident...

[kenny5]

expect a heavy penalty fr Schumi fr this....

[amouzouris]

http://s17.postimage.org/kaxgzd0un/RTL_ ... _37_21.jpg

expect a heavy penalty fr Schumi fr this....

why should schumi get a penalty?? he couldnt do anything else...he was already centimeters from the barrier...

[astracrazy]

expect a heavy penalty fr Schumi fr this....

What?! did u not see the incident...

[ajdavison2]

Sarcasm surely?

[FrukostScones]

expect a heavy penalty fr Schumi fr this....

What?! did u not see the incident...

he is trolling I think or bad sarcasm.

[crypted]

According to the technical report of the FIA the RB 8 complies with the Technical Regulations,here's the report:

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1 ... report.pdf

[beelsebob]

According to the technical report of the FIA the RB 8 complies with the Technical Regulations,here's the report:

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1 ... report.pdf

Discussed earlier in the thread – "bodywork facing the ground" was not checked at this race. If someone protested, further checks will be made and it may yet be found illegal... That said, I see no notice of protest.

[andartop]

No one protested according to autosport, but Whitmarsh said the issue will be clarified before the Canadian GP.

[i70q7m7ghw]

I think the only thing left in that sort of situation, where the driver has retired from the race, is possibly a championship points deduction?

Thought so as well!!!

But what if the offender doesn't have enough points, or any points?

I mean, it seems pretty straightforward to me that any penalty should be heavily dependent on the crime, the consequences and the specifics of each incident.

For example, it was very obvious in Barcelona that Schumi really got caught out by how early Senna had to brake: he surely would have avoided crashing into him if he could, and he surely lost more than Senna really, who was going backwards at that stage.

On the contrary, Maldonado's bullying in Monaco should have been punished even more harshly, as it was deliberate, entirely avoidable, and he had a previous history...

But I guess applying some common reason would be too much to ask from the FIA, wouldn't it?

I mean, we're all talking here as if we all know better, but we can hardly ever agree on any incident...

I don't see a reason why a driver couldn't go on to negative points if the get a deduction while on zero points. The problem with deducting championship points I guess is some drivers won't get a realistic chance to score during a season, so a championship points penalty could be seen as a tougher penalty for these drivers compared to those that are able to score regularly and recover the lost points.

[AnthonyG]

My remarks

*You could say the start crash was the fault of Romain, but imho it's a race-accident.
*I think Maldonado learned his lesson and we don't need more punishment. (read something about punishing him harder here)
*What a boring race
*The sauber is still the fastest car of the grid.

[Shrieker]

Alonso tried to shove his car into a gap which it was never going to fit into. Result = bumping another car. Of course he gets away even without an investigation. Remember how Hamilton was treated(rather crucified) last year when he tried to fit his car into a gap which it was never going to fit into ? He isn't called teflonso without reason. He got away from crashgate scot free ( he didn't know ), now he knows he can get away from anything. I'm not saying the move he made today should've been punished %100, though it deserved an investigation but got overlooked so easily.

[zyphro]

My remarks

*You could say the start crash was the fault of Romain, but imho it's a race-accident.
*I think Maldonado learned his lesson and we don't need more punishment. (read something about punishing him harder here)
*What a boring race
*The sauber is still the fastest car of the grid.

Sauber is still fastest? Based on what?