Le Mans 24h Race - 2012

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Ambition overcame adhesion. /Brundle
(i.e. it spun)

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Kristensen leads the race in the #2 car and Fassler is just a second and a half behind him in #1 car..... if TK pulls this off... his unassailable record of 9 time Le Mans winner will stay for many years to come... unless he himself breaks it again
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McNish just parked the #2 car into the barrier. He lost one lap to the leading #1.

#3 meanwhile was also in the barriers as Marc Gené lost control of the car after going over a curb a little too hard. They are losing a lot more time and are still in the pits. The right front suspension was completely broken.
Pos	N°	Cat	Car	Driver	Team	T	Laps	Gap	Last lap	Pits
1	1	LM P1	AUDI R18 E-TRON QUATTRO	TRELUYER B.	AUDI SPORT TEAM JOEST	M	340		7:44.797	30
2	2	LM P1	AUDI R18 E-TRON QUATTRO	MCNISH A.	AUDI SPORT TEAM JOEST	M	338	2 Laps	7:25.888	29
3	4	LM P1	AUDI R18 ULTRA	JARVIS O.	AUDI SPORT NORTH AMERICA	M	336	4 Laps	7:25.521	29
4	12	LM P1	LOLA B12/60 COUPE - TOYOTA	JANI N.	REBELLION RACING	M	329	11 Laps	7:21.085	28
5	3	LM P1	AUDI R18 ULTRA	GENÉ M.	AUDI SPORT TEAM JOEST	M	327	13 Laps	20:56.526	29
6	22	LM P1	HPD ARX 03A - HONDA	CHANDHOK K.	JRM	M	320	20 Laps	7:20.849	28
7	44	LM P2	HPD ARX 03B - HONDA	KIMBER-SMITH T.	STARWORKS MOTORSPORT	D	317	23 Laps	7:27.309	28
8	46	LM P2	ORECA 03-NISSAN	TINSEAU C.	THIRIET BY TDS RACING	D	317	5:06.549	7:45.198	27
9	49	LM P2	ORECA 03-NISSAN	KAFFER P.	PECOM RACING	D	316	24 Laps	7:26.923	29
10	26	LM P2	ORECA 03-NISSAN	PANCIATICI N.	SIGNATECH NISSAN	D	314	26 Laps	7:26.087	28

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I don't know if it has been mentioned yet but after Anthony Davidson was taken to hospital for checks they revealed that he has 2 broken vertebrae in this back.

He broke the news over twitter.
"Well that was a big one! Lying in a French hospital with a broken back wasn't what I had in mind at this stage in the race. Gutted for the Toyota Hybrid team who did an amazing job all week. Thank god I can follow the race on Twitter though!"

Sky Sports website are saying they believe he can make a full recovery if he is patient.

http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/new ... um=twitter
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Fantastic video I just found on Youtube

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJylUpzQ-iQ[/youtube]
More could have been done.
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JayeOFarrell wrote:I don't know if it has been mentioned yet but after Anthony Davidson was taken to hospital for checks they revealed that he has 2 broken vertebrae in this back.
Nasty.
My Dad did himself a similar injury many years go in a Formula Atlantic. These serious impacts reach the level where the human body just can't hold up. Even a perfectly supporting seat, a human body is going to suffer injury at 40-50g.
Like Anthony Davidson, my Dad managed to crawl out but that was it. It took him a couple of years to get over it but he's actually out motorcycle racing today (and in his late seventies).

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Question: How long until Audi pulls out of Le Mans? It's not like there's much prestige to be had winning 10 times without legitimate competition.

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So Peugeot was no competition? Toyota and Porsche aren't going to be competition? Audi has pulled out and gotten back into Le Mans with new multi-year efforts before.

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Diff-user wrote:Kristensen leads the race in the #2 car and Fassler is just a second and a half behind him in #1 car..... if TK pulls this off... his unassailable record of 9 time Le Mans winner will stay for many years to come... unless he himself breaks it again
But just like last year McNish blew it again.

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Red Schneider wrote:

ACO says:

The Technical Regulations for the Le Mans Prototype 1 (LMP1) class were today presented at the Automobile Club de l'Ouest's press conference, held at the Museum of the 24 Hours.

These 24 Hours of Le Mans LMP1 Technical Regulations will also, from the 1st of January 2014, cover the Le Mans Series LMP1 category, the FIA World Endurance Championship and the American Le Mans Series.

Once approved by the FIA World Council, the 24 Hours of Le Mans LMP1 Technical Regulations will be available online from late afternoon on Friday, 15th June.

6 BASIC POINTS TO REMEMBER

• New technology will be granted freedom with regard to powertrain (that is engine and hybrid system) in accordance with the development of road vehicles.

• The engines are free. The limitations of cylinders, restrictors and turbo pressures are removed.

• Significant reduction - up to 30% - of the use of fossil fuels used.

• The hybrid systems are free as long as they can be measured but are limited to two per car. The private teams are protected.

• Cars must be closed to improve safety.

• Weight and width are reduced.

QUOTES

Pierre Fillon, President of the Automobile Club de l'Ouest: "The philosophy of this particularly innovative regulation was outlined by the Automobile Club de l'Ouest in 2009, then came talks with automakers. They all adhered to this concept.This text has been drafted in close partnership between the ACO and the FIA and in an ongoing dialogue with the manufacturers. I want to underline the excellent cooperation between our two entities both in the working groups, technical, sports and endurance Committee. I also wish to highlight the excellent spirit that prevails between our different teams ACO and FIA. And I thank Lindsay Owen Jones, President of the Commission Endurance of being the guarantor of this state of mind."

Sir Lindsay Owen-Jones, Chairman of the Commission of the FIA Endurance: "With a thorough job and excellent collaboration, the ACO and FIA today present a unique and ely innovative LM P1 2014 technical regulations, in step with the times. It should promote the development of powerful and spectacular cars as well as the development of technologies with real relevance for the everyday motorist. The private teams are not forgotten, but competitive through simple alternatives. I hope that the technical regulations LM P1 2014 will thrill you as it fascinates all who participated in its elaboration."

Leading figures in endurance racing voiced their satisfaction after the launch today of new LMP1 Technical Regulations which will come into force in 2014.

Dr Wolfgang Ullrich, Audi: "These are not a surprise to us as the constructors have worked on the development of these regulations. The different companies, of course, all have different ideas but I think that a ruling which pleases everyone isn’t a good ruling. For my part, I am very happy with the basic regulations which have been revealed today. They allow us to demonstrate transferable technologies from road to track, and that’s very important for Audi."

Hugues de Chaunac, Oreca: "It’s very exciting. These are not an evolution of the regulations, but a real revolution. Endurance racing is going to completely differentiate itself from other motor racing. The allocation of energy is something new and that will allow endurance races to separate themselves clearly from F1. That will also allow new technologies to distinguish themselves from the old; it’s an enormous step forward. We won’t be doing laps just to use fuel…we will be contributing to the way forward in terms of energy economy. I think there will be a great diversity of technologies represented because the engineers aren’t all in agreement with each other on this area."

Jacques Nicolet, OAK Racing: “We have to see if this new regulation is going to translate on a more practical level. If we put ourselves into a private team category, with the amount of fuel we are allocated, I await to see if we can be competitive compared with the more costly hybrid systems to which we won’t have access, at least to begin with. However, the intentions appear to me to be good and I think that these new regulations will be a source of innovation. As far as the Asian Le Mans Series is concerned, all these emerging markets are good for us. I think that it’s potentially an enormous market in which we can sell many cars. The contacts are there, and we already have a presence in China.”

Jean-Félix Bazelin, Dunlop: "The most important thing is that Endurance racing will be more easily understandable. At the moment it’s difficult to explain restrictor equivalencies between the ‘diesels’ and the ‘petrol’ cars. Everyone will have the same amount of energy available…there will be nothing more to explain! The ACO has returned to the values that we have perhaps forgotten: competition should have an impact on the car of Mr and Mrs “everyman”. It’s not just politically correct but also very interesting for engineers. Finally, there is a last point which is close to my heart: privateers will have a chance to show themselves to their best advantage."

That seems very exciting.

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I can not see Audi going anywhere. Competition or not (ignoring Peugeot and Toyota of course) they are still winning one of the three most prestigious races in the world year on year.
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skgoa wrote:So Peugeot was no competition? Toyota and Porsche aren't going to be competition? Audi has pulled out and gotten back into Le Mans with new multi-year efforts before.
Well yes, that was certainly a modicum of hyperbole, but if I recall correctly Renault stopped supplying engines in F1 in the late 90s because they'd won so much there was no incentive anymore.

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Red Schneider wrote:
skgoa wrote:So Peugeot was no competition? Toyota and Porsche aren't going to be competition? Audi has pulled out and gotten back into Le Mans with new multi-year efforts before.
Well yes, that was certainly a modicum of hyperbole, but if I recall correctly Renault stopped supplying engines in F1 in the late 90s because they'd won so much there was no incentive anymore.
And we'll soon see the law of diminishing returns in action..... Audi will soon find it unprofitable putting in so much when they have no one to beat and start loosening up knowing that the competition is not worth that extra effort (or rather they'll not know where to improve considering they are the best by a BIG margin already).... and then a team (*cough*toyota-2013*cough*) will catch them sleeping and BANG another great rivalry is born..... things balance out in motor racing... thats why its been around for so long.... domination lasts long... but not forever.., just wait till someone pulls a renault 2005 on audi
money makes the cars go round
engines are there just for the sound
V10.......V8.......V6....... V none
And that's the story of Formula 1

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Red Schneider wrote:Question: How long until Audi pulls out of Le Mans? It's not like there's much prestige to be had winning 10 times without legitimate competition.
I (and I seem to be pretty much alone in this) still think Audi will enter F1 in 2014. Like said, there is nothing to be won anymore and it is getting pretty boring.
skgoa wrote:So Peugeot was no competition? Toyota and Porsche aren't going to be competition? Audi has pulled out and gotten back into Le Mans with new multi-year efforts before.
No Peugeot never was any competition, Audi still beat them easily. They won in 2009 because Audi came with an ultra high downforce car which the Michelins couldnt handle properly. Audi would had defeated them easily then too.

No team was a true competition to Audi, Peugeot came quite close or were faster on raw pace, but that was all. Peugeot was only superior on the mechanical side, imo in aerodynamics they were quite behind the Audo from 2009 and on.

Toyota had come surprisingly close too, certainly compared to their preparation time, but werent remotely a match for Audi. I doubt Audi ever pushed the max out of their car in the race. Toyota sure has potential to improve, they came close with a Gasoline car, but who knows what potential Audi still has.

As for Porsche, they will never be competition to audi, or otherwise. They're from the same company so they will never be allowed to race together, it will either be Porsche or Audi, not both.
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Holm86 wrote:
Diff-user wrote:Kristensen leads the race in the #2 car and Fassler is just a second and a half behind him in #1 car..... if TK pulls this off... his unassailable record of 9 time Le Mans winner will stay for many years to come... unless he himself breaks it again
But just like last year McNish blew it again.
When i saw Gene's car go off at that chicane my only thought was "please let it not be McNish"... and then i saw "Ultra" on the vertical fin and heaved a sigh of relief just to see a Quattro kissing the Armco at the Porsche curves in the next frame..... Le Mans... a 24 hour roller coaster ride, really.... i feel for the B'day boy Capello... he sounded clearly dejected in a post race interview.... can't blame him
money makes the cars go round
engines are there just for the sound
V10.......V8.......V6....... V none
And that's the story of Formula 1