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Mark Webber has won the Grand Prix of Great Britain for the second time in three years after a late charge on Fernando Alonso. The Spaniard suffered in his final stint and lost the win 5 laps from the end. With Alonso second, Sebastian Vettel finished third to make this a great result for Red Bull Racing.
raymondu999 wrote:93... that's quite a while. That's the year before they introduced the Abbey chicane, right?
Khartikeyan FTW?? What's not to like?? That'd be brilliant! =D> LoL!FrukostScones wrote:I looked into my crystal ball and saw something most of you guys will not be pleased with.
Dominating in valencia says nearly nothing about what will happen at Silverstone. The track requires entirely different properties in the car, and the temperature requires the tyres to have far more energy put into them. In my book, that's no longer RBR territory... But you never know, their upgrade could have done more than we thought.Red Schneider wrote:My (nearly baseless) prediction is that Red Bull will take pole and the checkered flag. Vettel was murdering everyone in Valencia.
It depends if they can put enough energy into the tyres to heat them through the core or if they just slide about over-heating the surface.raymondu999 wrote:Agreed with everything Beelsebob said.
The D-spec Red Bull is too much of an unknown to truly judge yet. After all we've only seen it for one race. The F2012 was good in Barcelona, but the latest exhaust iteration has only got mileage in Canada and Valencia - both traction-straight-braking circuits. It will be interesting to see how both fare here.
I wonder though - how much will the track surface and the long lateral loadings help to put the cars who don't go to well in cold (the Red Bulls/Lotuses) put more energy in the tyres? I remember in 2011 Suzuka - even in a Ferrari that was rubbish in cold, and rubbish on hard/medium tyres, Fernando was the happiest on the circuit on the hard tyres as the lateral energies put through the tyre just helped the tyre warmup massively.
As beelsebob and I have mentioned earlier, I'm not sure this is really relevant. The tyres are never on the limit of fast-corner lateral grip there - and that's what you need in Silverstone. You also have 2 places where there is extreme braking in S3 Valencia - which again isn't present in Silverstone.myurr wrote:Interesting fact, in qualifying Vettel was only third fastest through sector three with both Maldonado and Hamilton being quicker. Even Button managed to be fifth quickest! This is the section with the high speed turns.
There´s an even better layout, it´s called historic in iRacing but it does have the left kink, but no chicanes from Stowe to Bridge.raymondu999 wrote:WilliamsF1, I think the picture you posted is of a newer layout than the 93 layout you speak of. 93 layout had no Abbey chicane... Abbey was a left kink midway between Club and Bridge if I remember correctly. You kinked left then went straight for the kill into Bridge.
I would tend to suggest that it won't have that much impact – Spains enormously fast right handers didn't seem to do serious damage to which cars were quick in that temperature range.raymondu999 wrote:Agreed with everything Beelsebob said.
The D-spec Red Bull is too much of an unknown to truly judge yet. After all we've only seen it for one race. The F2012 was good in Barcelona, but the latest exhaust iteration has only got mileage in Canada and Valencia - both traction-straight-braking circuits. It will be interesting to see how both fare here.
I wonder though - how much will the track surface and the long lateral loadings help to put the cars who don't go to well in cold (the Red Bulls/Lotuses) put more energy in the tyres? I remember in 2011 Suzuka - even in a Ferrari that was rubbish in cold, and rubbish on hard/medium tyres, Fernando was the happiest on the circuit on the hard tyres as the lateral energies put through the tyre just helped the tyre warmup massively.