FrukostScones wrote:bizarre, now you get fined for racing incidents. edit: watched a better replay again, MAL just lost his rear, his fault but nothing to get fined for.
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FrukostScones wrote:bizarre, now you get fined for racing incidents. edit: watched a better replay again, MAL just lost his rear, his fault but nothing to get fined for.
He lost the rear because he was driving too damn fast, as if there was nobody next to him. There was more than enough room for both cars (as evidenced by the multiple overtakes at the same corner throughout the day). This is simply yet another illustration of Maldonado not caring about anyone around him.vall wrote:
exactlyMAL just lost the rare for a moment, it happens often and it was bad luck for Sergio to be there....
I think it was just Hamilton wanting to have a little fight. He must've known he had no chance, but he sounded like he had no confidence at all and this was the only point in the race that he had a good fight in a forward position. Good on him, great piece of action from both of them.andartop wrote:That was impressive driving from both, and a lesson to many others of the newer (and older) generation on how to battle while respecting the other driver.
Entertaining as it was, what I was thinking was how much benefit it was for Lewis to waste time trying to fend off a car he wasn't really racing against (as at that moment Lewis was on worn tires and would soon pit). The BBC commentators mentioned that Alonso lost about 1 second from Webber in that battle. If we assume Lewis lost about the same amount of time, it might have been just enough to get him ahead of Kimi after his pit stop (as he was 0.5 sec behind Kimi right after he rejoined).
It might not have made any difference in the end, as Kimi would have most certainly overtaken Lewis later based on pure pace, but at that stage of the race nothing had been decided yet.
Not bashing Lewis, just pointing out how every little detail may make a difference in F1.
1 and 2 are unrealisticankitshah wrote:Did anyone notice the battle between ALO and HAM for the lead after the 1st stop. ALO was past HAM between the detection and acticvation and was slightly ahead of HAM going into the straight. So he was able to open his DRS for the straight. But HAM tucked into the wake region just behind the rear crash structure and was able to outpace ALO without his DRS.
Post 2011 we have never had a situation with the leading car having DRS open and the follower so close in the wake at points where close to top speed is achieved so in that sense it was a 1st time case. Other places where this was likely would be Canada and Valencia 2011 (consecutive DRS zones). But there the leader with DRS was well away into the straight.
I could think of these reasons for the outcome:
1) Poor traction for ALO masked by DRS making it close
2) Merc engine power could overhaul Ferrari with DRS
3) HAM got into the region of slipstream where the drag reducing effect was so great that any similar powered car could have made the pass
or was it some kind of combination of 2-3. Your thoughts?
Hamilton exhibited a very similar disregard for Maldonado in Valencia and was given no penalty at all. That gave everyone tacit permission take corners as they please.thearmofbarlow wrote:He lost the rear because he was driving too damn fast, as if there was nobody next to him. There was more than enough room for both cars (as evidenced by the multiple overtakes at the same corner throughout the day). This is simply yet another illustration of Maldonado not caring about anyone around him.vall wrote:
exactlyMAL just lost the rare for a moment, it happens often and it was bad luck for Sergio to be there....
You know why Maldonado received penalties for both the Hamilton and Perez incidents (well... TWO Perez incidents) while those two received none?bhallg2k wrote: Hamilton exhibited a very similar disregard for Maldonado in Valencia and was given no penalty at all. That gave everyone tacit permission take corners as they please.
Something is right, or it's wrong. It can't be both.
bhallg2k wrote:I don't contest that. The collisions were unrelated to one another, though.
Maldonado rammed his way back on-track in Valencia after being pushed off by Hamilton, and he was justly penalized for it. He collided with Perez, because he lost traction doing precisely the same thing Hamilton did in Valencia. I suspect the monetary sanction was mostly because of everything that's happened this year. Otherwise, his move was legit and resulted in a simple racing incident, which is why he didn't get a "real" penalty.
Something tells me that there's something else going through his head since he seems to almost be laughing at something while being interviewed. Perhaps something in the background or at having to say he was not too bothered by losing the victory with four laps to go?