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What do you think of the prospect of a USGP 2012 at Austin Texas

Good thinking. Place has good infra structure and nice climate in winter.
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Not good as it has no motor sport tradition in the US.
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I will wait to see how it will shape up.
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I don't care.
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Total votes: 269

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Pup wrote:
xpensive wrote:Should or shall, perhaps its time for another clarification, "Thou shalt not bring the sport into disrepute", what's that then?
A complete misstating of the rule in question.
I beg to differ as I find the argument over nuances important here. MrM found the quote above scribbled on a piece of rock quite some time ago, why it should take precedence over more recent xpressions, thus equalizing the latter two in relevance?
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You'll need to provide carbon dating of the rock in question prior to it's being admitted into evidence.

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My counsel's name is Dershowitz, care to take it to court?
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Is his first name Bubba?

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Not xactly, but he claims to have a god given birth-right of first translation in this particular case.
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xpensive wrote:Should or shall, perhaps it's time for another clarification, "Thou shalt not bring the sport into disrepute", what's that then?
In English, the word should means it's a suggestion. Shall means you will do something because you are told you will do it. You don't need any court interpretations or evidence other than a dictionary you can buy at a gas station. There's your clarification.

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"Shall" derives from the Old English "sceal" meaning "must". "Should" is the past simple and conditional (and therefore less direct and harsh) form of "shall", just as "would" is the past simple and conditional form of "will". In this sense, both "shall" and "should" maintain this meaning and usage (which is not typically interchangeable with "would", and slightly more interchangeable with "will") even in modern times and are in fact the most common way to express such obligations. Should is used with a sense of quasi-obligation, synonymous with ought to:
You should eat the Nomenx. :lol:
To achieve anything, you must be prepared to dabble on the boundary of disaster.”
Sir Stirling Moss

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I sent an email to Jean Todt and he had this to say about the subject...
Jean Todt wrote:What in nine flaming hells are you talking about?
Realizing my mistake (Mr. Todt is not a technical delegate) I then contacted Jo Bauer, the Formula 1 Technical Delegate who was responsible for the Red Bull engine map clarification coming to pass. His comment was this...
Jo Bauer wrote:Clearly there is a situation where there is a clear disconnect between a clear definition of shall and should. Clearly this requires a level of pedantry above my clear standing. Clearly my only recommendation is to refer this to the FIA for a more clear clarification.
Mr. Bauer then forwarded my request for clarification to one Robert Darbelnet, current US-based FIA committee member. He said this...
Robert Darbelnet wrote:Get the mustard.
I think this brings a conclusion to the question of the FIA's stance on this particular issue.

The above may or may not have actually happened, BTW.

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I doubt it, this all semantics and retrospective, the August 18 date was obvious to all six months ago. Ta-da...
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Image

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Thanks Watkins. Here's a link for the rest of the photos:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set ... 693&type=1



Also: Mayor pulls support for F1 Fan Fest music festival at Auditorium Shores

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/may ... 36667.html

ETA: Reid Ryan (Nolan Ryan's kid, who runs the Texas Rangers' AAA Minor League Baseball Round Rock Express) just tweeted this:

@robertreidryan #F1 concert a no-go in downtown #Austin. #rrexpress and Dell Diamond would love to host F1 music fest.
Follow me on twitter @Austin_F1 ...

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:lol: Welcome to Texas, F1 - you're no match for the Rich Bitch Army of the Junior League. :lol:

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Pup wrote::lol: Welcome to Texas, F1 - you're no match for the Rich Bitch Army of the Junior League. :lol:
Oh, but we know who you are...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RktysPeRP0
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Man, the red piping on the tower & GS have to go.
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