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[turbof1]

Shape! Due to profile, the air on each side goes at a different speed, pulling car onto track. Look at an aircraft wing (in reverse) It creates lift, even when the plane is flying level. I presume that 'camber' refers to the amount of curvature. The greater the curve, the greater the downforce.

except that the flap doesn't have a curve. Like beelsebob said, it's flat. The main plane indeed is curved. Well if that was what pierce89 meant with camber anyway (weird of using a term ussually applied for the angle of the wheels here for a wing).

Not quite such weird use really, it's a pretty standard term when referring to an aerofoil. Hope the below link clarifies the matter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camber_%28aerodynamics%29

That helped! Thanks alot .

[turbof1]

What benefit is there from running the inner R cascades to the outer ones?

Wouldn't the outer elements help with flow over the tyres?

I would bet that the inner R cascades are there partly (or even mostly) to condition flow for the back of the car, while the outer ones are simply there to try and use the air as hard as possible before it hits the mess the tyre creates.

I believe the outer cascades are also used to produce front downforce, as wel as minimal airflow diverting to the back. The cascades certainly are there to keep airflow away from the wheels, not only because it creates drag (like pointed out the cascades probably produce more drag then a exposed wheel), but more importantly the wheel, that is exposed, creates bigger and more vortices, which is bad for airflow to the back.

[i70q7m7ghw]

It seems rather bulged, as if it is convex shaped instead of concave(or the other way around, you get the point)

Been saying that since spa, nobody listened.

[wesley123]

It seems rather bulged, as if it is convex shaped instead of concave(or the other way around, you get the point)

Been saying that since spa, nobody listened.

Well seems we agree then

[hardingfv32]

...The cascades certainly are there to keep airflow away from the wheels, not only because it creates drag (like pointed out the cascades probably produce more drag then a exposed wheel), but more importantly the wheel, that is exposed, creates bigger and more vortices, which is bad for airflow to the back.

Yet we see a trend toward fewer cascades at other teams in recent races.

Brian

[PlatinumZealot]

At high speeds there is a high pressure pocket in front of the wheel. That pocket deflects the air over the tyre by itself. The cascade is not needed anymore since you don't need that kind of down-force and drag along with it.

[wesley123]

...The cascades certainly are there to keep airflow away from the wheels, not only because it creates drag (like pointed out the cascades probably produce more drag then a exposed wheel), but more importantly the wheel, that is exposed, creates bigger and more vortices, which is bad for airflow to the back.

Yet we see a trend toward fewer cascades at other teams in recent races.

Brian

No we do not.

The few teams that did in this and last race are doing it to reduce the drag for the straights of Monza (And Belgium), not because it is superior in any way

[astracrazy]

are macca not taking part in any in season test this year? We saw some teams test at Silverstone and I understand they are not taking part at magny cours?

[zyphro]

are macca not taking part in any in season test this year? We saw some teams test at Silverstone and I understand they are not taking part at magny cours?

They won't be present, if I remember correctly.

[morefirejules08]

Do we know if McLaren are bringing any updates to Singapore?

[Owen.C93]

are macca not taking part in any in season test this year? We saw some teams test at Silverstone and I understand they are not taking part at magny cours?

They save it till end of the season when it makes sense logistically.

[Coefficient]

Do we know if McLaren are bringing any updates to Singapore?

Quadruple DRS is my guess.

[beelsebob]

Do we know if McLaren are bringing any updates to Singapore?

Sam Michael asserted earlier that McLaren would bring upgrades to Hungary and Spa, then a Monza specific package, and then another upgrade to Singapore.

[morefirejules08]

Do we know if McLaren are bringing any updates to Singapore?

Quadruple DRS is my guess.

Or maybe a stepped nose because we all know you cant make a fast car without one!

[the EDGE]

Whitmarsh confirms update package for singapore

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102434

I would like to see some sort of DDRS or passive F-dut but these have sure proved either usless or difficult so I'll trust their expertise & knoledge here and be happy with what ever direction they choose