Ferrari F2012

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Formula One Young Drivers Test, Day 1, Magny-Cours, France
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there have been investigations surrounding nanofluids to improve heat transfer ..this is working quite well but as a net benefit there is not much in it really as the heat transfer from fluid to wall is not really the limiting factor so the gains are ..small but maybe just not well understood looking into this :
http://www.transportation.anl.gov/pdfs/MM/811.PDF

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If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari.

Gilles Villeneuve

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aleksandergreat wrote:
amouzouris wrote:
i think you mean flow conditioner
he he jep :D :lol: :lol:
They will bring an air conditioner in Singapore. This idea is very cool, its meant to de-energize the mass of air for the cars behind them when cornering. :D

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Are they activating a kind of lounge control? The engine and gearbox sounds intreges me before they rev up.
They idle the engine, shift to neutral? Clutch, then you hear a strange noise from the engine, shift to 1 rev up.

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Hail22 wrote:Just got an email this morning from our dear friend the "informant"

He advised me that Ferrari will be testing a new chemical compound/liquid to aid engine and hydraulic cooling.

Any ideas what liquid chemical can be made for cooling without blocking the lines or being highly flammable?
Nuclear reactors have used gas, metal and salt cooling.
Gas would be banned on the spot for safety concerns (high pressures are needed to have any reasonable density).
Metal and salt could have potential but they would need to develop a completely new cooling system (pump, radiator, ...).

What is far more probable is a different water/glycol-based fluid. Nanoparticles could indeed be viable, rather by increasing the boiling temperature than increasing the heat capacity.

A higher boiling temperature would allow a slower flow rate of coolant and thereby the temperature of the coolant exiting the block. This increases the temperature difference to the outside -> higher heat discharge, to fully utilize that (smaller radiator size, less air flow needed) the lower temperature for the coolant is higher as well. This adds up to a higher thermal stress for the engine (shouldn't be much of a problem, as the temperature difference to the environment (ca 100°C - 30°C = 70 K) is much smaller than the temperature of the engine block)

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Kiril Varbanov
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Piola has animation for AMuS - Ferrari are using third small pedal to activate DRS.

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Kiril Varbanov wrote:Piola has animation for AMuS - Ferrari are using third small pedal to activate DRS.
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Nice picts....I don't see the extra DRS pedal..Also, shouldn't there be a clutch pedal somewhere?

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diffuser wrote:
Kiril Varbanov wrote:Piola has animation for AMuS - Ferrari are using third small pedal to activate DRS.
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Nice picts....I don't see the extra DRS pedal..Also, shouldn't there be a clutch pedal somewhere?
there are two pedals for the clutch operation on the steering wheel

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diffuser wrote:
Kiril Varbanov wrote:Piola has animation for AMuS - Ferrari are using third small pedal to activate DRS.
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Nice picts....I don't see the extra DRS pedal..Also, shouldn't there be a clutch pedal somewhere?
take a look at the video, there you will see a small pedal for DRS just left of the the left pedal.

I guess Ferrari think those steering wheels are getting too busy.

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Noob question, does the car computer prevent you from activating the DRS when you are not allowed too ? If so couldn't you just have the DRS be activated automatically when allowed ?

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Slife wrote:Noob question, does the car computer prevent you from activating the DRS when you are not allowed too ? If so couldn't you just have the DRS be activated automatically when allowed ?

good question actually.

May be the control could be foro NOT deploying DRS when allowed if for any reason that is what the driver wants in given conditions. It seems to me 99% of the time it is indeed deployed so, yes, why not automate it.

I am sure I am missing something myself though.

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Slife wrote:Noob question, does the car computer prevent you from activating the DRS when you are not allowed too ? If so couldn't you just have the DRS be activated automatically when allowed ?
rule states the DRS should be ctivated by the driver manually

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windwaves wrote:
Slife wrote:Noob question, does the car computer prevent you from activating the DRS when you are not allowed too ? If so couldn't you just have the DRS be activated automatically when allowed ?

good question actually.

May be the control could be foro NOT deploying DRS when allowed if for any reason that is what the driver wants in given conditions. It seems to me 99% of the time it is indeed deployed so, yes, why not automate it.

I am sure I am missing something myself though.
FIA F1 Technical Regulations wrote: 3.18 Driver adjustable bodywork :
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- Any alteration of the incidence of the uppermost closed section may only be commanded by direct driver input and controlled using the control electronics specified in Article 8.2.

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thx.