Scuderia Ferrari 2012

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If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari.

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that´s the new Enzo right? can´t wait for that car!
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Ferrari closing down their wind tunnel for the rest of the year to get to the bottom of the correlation problems.

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Nando wrote:Ferrari closing down their wind tunnel for the rest of the year to get to the bottom of the correlation problems.

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Yes I think that's a better approach than just building a new one - unless they truly understand where their correlation issues lie, then they're prone to just making the same error in the new one.
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/102996

this article says nothing of new tunnel!
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The talks for new Wind Tunnel continue to amaze me.

Finding a problem in existing installation will be multiple times cheaper (by comparing the same car config in let's say two tunnels) than building a new one.
As I've already mentioned, the rough estimate for new WT is around 40 to 50 million US dollars - why spending that much? Yes, Ferrari is rich team, but this seems too much and overly lavish even for them - remember, Europe is still under tricky economic conditions.

Second option - call external consultants to check what's wrong - sometimes you do obvious mistakes which your mind accepts as true.

And if, just in theory, they want to build new WT - what's the option in the meantime? Loosing championship points or outsourcing?

Whatever the case might be, I'm really interested to understand the final outcome of that saga.

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Already ahead of you.

Ferrari would most likely be hiring consultants and engineers from Airbus to check the wind tunnel in regards to possible faults that lay in the tunnel.

Lets see if the news/media groups will find out/catch on that Ferrari will sub-contract an aeronautical engineering firm to diagnose/repair the faults...
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What if they talked to Audi or Toyota and asked for them to check over what they're doing?

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Red Schneider wrote:What if they talked to Audi or Toyota and asked for them to check over what they're doing?
Audi is owned by VWG (Volkswagen Group) who sponsors Scuderia Torro Rosso...in small part.

I wouldn't throw out Toyota as a thought though...if the their tunnel is on song and accurate what better people...however hiring a company like the French/German based Airbus would mean faster assistance (24/7) as well as a comprehensive and detailed inspection/report by well accredited and high achieving Engineers/consultants.
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I struggling to see what the link is between VAG (Volkswagen AG) owning Audi, the VW badge on the STR and consulting work with Ferrari to fix a windtunnel problem....

All the auto houses use their internal experts as consultants to other members of industry. VW had quite a few of their engineers over at Ford a decade ago when they were developing the Sharan MPV together. Sponsorship of one team is not related to consulting with another. The people involved probably don't even speak nor are based in the same location.

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Stefano Domenicalli on the windtunnel issues.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103080

Couldn't have come at a worse time for them!! But they should be still be able to develop the car using the Toyota tunnel right?

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banibhusan wrote:Stefano Domenicalli on the windtunnel issues.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/103080

Couldn't have come at a worse time for them!! But they should be still be able to develop the car using the Toyota tunnel right?
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Here is my take on Ferrari's wind tunnel issues:

http://technicalf1explained.blogspot.co ... .html#more

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So thats it then

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The Toyota tunnel is one of the best around ..so if they can use this (and of course nobody else can use it then!) it should enable them to get on top of their trouble.
Where Ferrari not there already some time ago?
http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/04/20/ferra ... l-problem/

it looks like they did not get to the root of their woes in 2011...

Nevertheless The Toyota guys know their tool and pretty sure the specialists there will contribute a huge knowledge transfer -even if its only showing what Ferraris equipment leaves on the plate ...
Was the 2012 contender first developped in Cologne or Maranello?

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