Schumacher Retires (again)

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SeijaKessen wrote:
wesley123 wrote:No it isnt that no one ignores that, it is that it is bullshit.

So what you are saying is that because Benetton cheated Senna crashed into the wall in Imola? That's pretty weird, one would think someone would crash because of a driver error or a problem with the car, not because another team removes the fuel cap on their fuel tanks and run illegal software.
Senna knew Schumacher's car was illegal.

He died trying to outrun an illegal car...that's why the FIA was never going to admit the B-194 was actually running traction control. Can you imagine the liability they would open themselves up to if it was admitted that Senna was trying to outrun an illegal car at Imola? Why, you could make a rather easy case that he pushed his own car too hard trying to create a gap between himself and an illegal car.
I though Senna died because he crashed into the wall and part of the wheel/suspension came through his helmet?

He didnt die trying to outrun an illegal car, he died because of a crash. Or are you trying to say Senna else wouldnt give his 100%? We all know that is bullshit.
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A crash caused by trying to outrun an illegal car.

Anyway, Schumacher benefited from rampant cheating the entire season. My point remains the same, his 1994 title is a fraud and he should have been kicked out of the World Championship.

Talented driver yes, but also guilty of inexcusable behavior for most of his career on the track.

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senna died because he was driving an illegal car as always.

remember his illegal brake ducts?
remember him ilegally jumping into a spare car after the race had already started in brazil?
remeber him driving around monaco at a snails pace stopping everyone else getting a lap in :lol:

senna made msc luck like a saint but people choose to pardon him because he died #-o

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there is no reasoning with a rabid dog

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from F1SA.com

"Schu told Merc of Formula 1 exit five minutes before call - Michael Schumacher surprised even Mercedes when he announced his decision to once again retire from Formula One.

Germany's Auto Motor und Sport said that even though bosses Ross Brawn and Norbert Haug flanked the seven time World Champion as he announced the news, they had only been told what was going to happen just five minutes earlier.

"We had been preparing for a different kind of press conference," Haug revealed.

"Michael, Ross and I were going to answer the questions that had arisen after the transfer (announcement) of Lewis Hamilton," Mercedes' racing president added.

Haug said he would not have had a problem if Schumacher had opted to keep his Formula 1 career alive by switching to Sauber.

"What would have been wrong with that?" the German wondered.

But Sauber Chief Executive Monisha Kaltenborn on Friday insisted there had been "no negotiations" with the 43 year old about 2013 prior to Schumacher's decision to retire."

If its true then that really smells of a rift between Mercedes and Schumacher. It's clear he decided not to confide in them probably due to a lack of trust. I wouldn't trust those rattlers flanking him anyway. I doubt he will be taking up any management role. I suspect he may be considering taking on managerial role or vehicle development role at Ferrari

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i wonder what the other kind of conference was, mercedes anouncing schumcher staying on as an ambassasdor ? [-o<

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seems as there has been no official discussion on this which I interpret as Schumacher basically backing away from Mercedes in every way. Debt paid, I won't be sticking around so you can knife me again. Now Brawn tried to co-opt Schumacher into a role at MErc to appease the fans and perhaps Mercedes themselves.

The very uncomfortable expressions on the faces of Haug and Brawn seems to give this a lot of credibility. I hope Schumacher does walk away from Mercedes entirely.

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I´m not sure of what to make of this.
Maybe we will know in 2013 when Sauber will announce their powertrain supply for 2014? I very much suspect there was more to it than gets announced .
The fear inside Dai must surely be MGP getting wiped the floor with a sauber driven by the old man considering their speed this year not completely impossible.
Mind you Sauber would need just one race to thorrowly beat MGP and Michael driving to really hurt MGPs reputation.But i may see things there .

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It's not like teams were beating a path to Schumacher's door and begging him to drive. He was dragged out of retirement by some of Ross Brawn's flattery and ego massage. I wont be holding my breath for further Schumacher news.

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SeijaKessen wrote:
wesley123 wrote:No it isnt that no one ignores that, it is that it is bullshit.

So what you are saying is that because Benetton cheated Senna crashed into the wall in Imola? That's pretty weird, one would think someone would crash because of a driver error or a problem with the car, not because another team removes the fuel cap on their fuel tanks and run illegal software.
Senna knew Schumacher's car was illegal.

He died trying to outrun an illegal car...that's why the FIA was never going to admit the B-194 was actually running traction control. Can you imagine the liability they would open themselves up to if it was admitted that Senna was trying to outrun an illegal car at Imola? Why, you could make a rather easy case that he pushed his own car too hard trying to create a gap between himself and an illegal car.
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Raptor22 wrote:there is no reasoning with a rabid dog
Just remember that no driver with multiple championships other than MSC, was ever excluded from a world championship per his attempt to run Jacques Villeneuve off the track at Jerez in '97.

You don't have to agree with me Raptor, and that's fine.

Calling me a rabid dog because you don't agree is pathetic.

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marcush. wrote: Mind you Sauber would need just one race to thorrowly beat MGP and Michael driving to really hurt MGPs reputation.But i may see things there .
No, you don’t see things there. I also believe that Schumacher would do much better with Sauber. Just look at the result of Japan qualy. P4 and P6 on such a aerodynamically demanding track is quite impressive.
I think it is just up to Schumacher. If he wants to drive for Sauber it should be easy for him to get a seat there. I think he announced his retirement to early. He could have waited with that until the end of the season and see how things look like then.

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Raptor22 wrote:...I hope Schumacher does walk away from Mercedes entirely.
He should return to Ferrari and coach Massa.

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SeijaKessen wrote:A crash caused by trying to outrun an illegal car.

Anyway, Schumacher benefited from rampant cheating the entire season. My point remains the same, his 1994 title is a fraud and he should have been kicked out of the World Championship.

Talented driver yes, but also guilty of inexcusable behavior for most of his career on the track.
dude .... you embarrass. my advice stop post your nonsense here. This thread is about Schumacher Retirement if you want to continue your ideas go to the right thread. (as Richard said)

BTW: after these 6 races we have to arrest Schumacher for Killing Senna. ](*,) ](*,)

edit: and about Schumi future he should stay far away from Ferrari or Merc both teams treated him with disrespect. When Mick grows up Michael should buy a team and prepare for him a competitive car.

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mep wrote:
marcush. wrote: Mind you Sauber would need just one race to thorrowly beat MGP and Michael driving to really hurt MGPs reputation.But i may see things there .
No, you don’t see things there. I also believe that Schumacher would do much better with Sauber. Just look at the result of Japan qualy. P4 and P6 on such a aerodynamically demanding track is quite impressive.
I think it is just up to Schumacher. If he wants to drive for Sauber it should be easy for him to get a seat there. I think he announced his retirement to early. He could have waited with that until the end of the season and see how things look like then.
to be more precise :would it be possible Mercedes is offering Powertrains to sauber at special conditions IF schumacher does not join?