2012 Korean GP - Yeong-Am

[Shrieker]

I just don't understand though why they can't be a little bit more professional and at least do a fake celebration/smile when Mark beats Seb. As it is, it's blatantly obvious Vettel is being favored and they still go ahead and give us the BULL (no pun intended ) that the drivers are allowed to race...

It is not looking so good for Sebastian on the dirty side.

I fully expect him to come back and chop Hamilton proper. With Lewis keen to make quick work of him to keep his championship hopes alive, god knows what happens into the first corner...

[turbof1]

So are we expecting team orders tomorrow?

[stefan_]

Good for him but too bad that Mark doesn't have the best starts on the grid, so Vettel can go to P1 pretty quick, the same for Alonso over Hamilton if he has one of his good starts. Good position for Kimi considering the fact that he is driving arund this track for the first time. Overall it will be an interesting start, hope that Romain doesn't mess up this time too as it is a pretty tight first corner and he is on 7th, so it will be a little crowded around him. I was expecting a better positioning for Massa though.

P.S.: The post-qualifying picture was pretty much self explanatory about the atmosphere between those three.

[Websta]

I don't think Red Bull would issue team orders, I just hope that they don't botch Webber's pit stop (unintentionally) as it will still raise all sorts of eyebrows. Hopefully Hamilton jumps Vet at the start and they finish Web, Ham, Vet, Alo to make the championship more exciting

[clipsy1H]

so after practices any prediction for quali?

my top8:

1-2 Redbull
3-4 McLaren
5.Alonso
6.Rosberg
7.Schumi
8.Grosjean.

not so far at least i almost scored first 2 lines and i almost hit Grosjean (damn was a little faster than i expected)
MGP ruined my predictions

[Mika1]

Good for him but too bad that Mark doesn't have the best starts on the grid, so Vettel can go to P1 pretty quick, the same for Alonso over Hamilton if he has one of his good starts. Good position for Kimi considering the fact that he is driving arund this track for the first time. Overall it will be an interesting start, hope that Romain doesn't mess up this time too as it is a pretty tight first corner and he is on 7th, so it will be a little crowded around him. I was expecting a better positioning for Massa though.

P.S.: The post-qualifying picture was pretty much self explanatory about the atmosphere between those three.

I don't think so with the dirty side.

[Redragon]

My bet is, if alonso have a good start as he have had for the whole year that he will be second on first corner if he just go straight, because Vettel will go to cover Hamilton who is on the clean side. But let's see, Raikonen is on his back again.

Redbull will do their best to spoil webber's victory, they just need to find the right strategy of pit stops,

[ajdavison2]

I dont think it's a question of if they'll issue team orders. It's a question of when. And weather or not Mark will actually listen, as we know from silverstone 2011 theres every chance he wont. Given Vettel's penchant for leading from the front and dissapearing I wouldn't be at all surprised if it came in the first stint, towards the opening few laps so he can do what he always does.

[CHT]

I don't think Red Bull would issue team orders, I just hope that they don't botch Webber's pit stop (unintentionally) as it will still raise all sorts of eyebrows. Hopefully Hamilton jumps Vet at the start and they finish Web, Ham, Vet, Alo to make the championship more exciting

Webber is 70 points behind alonso and 66 points behind his team mate. with 5 races to go I would expect webber to move aside for Vettel even without team order.

[Websta]

I don't think Red Bull would issue team orders, I just hope that they don't botch Webber's pit stop (unintentionally) as it will still raise all sorts of eyebrows. Hopefully Hamilton jumps Vet at the start and they finish Web, Ham, Vet, Alo to make the championship more exciting

Webber is 70 points behind alonso and 66 points behind his team mate. with 5 races to go I would expect webber to move aside for Vettel even without team order.

There is zero chance of Webber relinquishing a race victory to help Vettel unless RBR hold a loaded gun to his head.

Edit: especially for just 7 points - I could only see him doing it willingly at the final race of the season to seal the championship for Vettel, but not with 5 rounds left. He wouldn't be very happy about that situation either

[CHT]

I don't think Red Bull would issue team orders, I just hope that they don't botch Webber's pit stop (unintentionally) as it will still raise all sorts of eyebrows. Hopefully Hamilton jumps Vet at the start and they finish Web, Ham, Vet, Alo to make the championship more exciting

Webber is 70 points behind alonso and 66 points behind his team mate. with 5 races to go I would expect webber to move aside for Vettel even without team order.

There is zero chance of Webber relinquishing a race victory to help Vettel unless RBR hold a loaded gun to his head.

Edit: especially for just 7 points - I could only see him doing it willingly at the final race of the season to seal the championship for Vettel, but not with 5 rounds left. He wouldn't be very happy about that situation either

Vettel will pass webber at the start tomorrow.

[Websta]

which would have nothing to do with team orders, and probably won't happen either

[raymondu999]

I think Vettel probably has a great chance of heading Webber off into T4 - leading off the start line isn't exactly a good proposition around Korea as it leaves the other guy free in your slipstream for a good 2 kilometers total.

Regarding team orders - not a chance Mark will listen. He will develop radio problems, most likely!

However I do believe Mark might be fooled into doing a team order by coded messages he can't disprove. If they told him to manage tyres or brakes, he'd just go "f*ck off." HOWEVER - if RBR say to him, "Mark, your gearbox is running extremely hot, there might be a problem. We need you to shortshift until we can see the problem." or "Mark, your brakes are about to go. Be careful on the brakes." then I think that could be a possible.

remember Brazil 2010? Mark was told, "Mark, gearbox oil is running hot. You need 3 seconds of clear air to manage the temperatures."

[Morteza]

If it is that important for Red Bull that Seb finishes first not second, they will make Mark an offer he can't refuse

[MarkedOne8]

Mark Webber just signed a contract with Red Bull for 2014.