2012 Korean GP - Yeong-Am

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Who will leave Korea as the championship leader?

Poll ended at 14 Oct 2012, 07:36

Alonso
42
39%
Vettel
67
61%
 
Total votes: 109

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myurr wrote:
FrukostScones wrote:....



really?
Yeah really. How would this order: Vet, Mas, Web, Alo be better for Alonso than Vet, Web, Alo, Mas?

They could have let Massa past Alonso. Massa was really flying. He could have attacked Webber. Maybe Webber and Massa would crash. They both DNF. Only one DNFs. Better or equal than before (if massa let Alo past again). Massa overtakes Webber. Webbers tyres shot. Alonso passes Webber. Alonso and Massa change positions. Or Massa overtakes Vet, Web 3, Alo 4. Better.
Massa mangages to overtake Webber but not Vet. Last lap he has a bad sector Webber and Alonso go past him. Old order restored.
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clipsy1H
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why this team (redbull) do this? they are fast but why troll on radio?? bunch of frustrated i remember what happen in brazil last year when they compare this kid with Senna ](*,)

btw: Vettel screamed like a woman but good job Newey great upgrades also GJ Mark...

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myurr wrote:
Joie de vivre wrote:
myurr wrote: Yeah really. How would this order: Vet, Mas, Web, Alo be better for Alonso than Vet, Web, Alo, Mas?
you just dont get it, do you? massa would pass webber and then help alonso to get closer to both of them and pass them ... if that wouldn't work, massa would just let him go by and everything would be the same as it is now. how hard is that to understand?
Because that's such a farcical proposition. When has that ever been successfully executed in F1?
it doesn't mean it couldn't be done... took you 3 pages to realize what we where trying to say... :)

anyway, it's over... vettel will be WDC this year... i'm sure of it...
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Morteza wrote:Now Ferrari are ahead of McLaren in WCC, aren't they?
Yes

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Morteza wrote:Now Ferrari are ahead of McLaren in WCC, aren't they?
I'd rather see Alonso ahead of Vettel...

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zeph wrote:
Morteza wrote:Now Ferrari are ahead of McLaren in WCC, aren't they?
I'd rather see Alonso ahead of Vettel...
Me too :(
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The problem for Ferrari is that Vettel is the King of India.
"We have a new toy" - Fernando Alonso.

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That was boring..

Looks like Red Bull have it sorted...
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Goran2812 wrote:
myurr wrote:
Joie de vivre wrote: you just dont get it, do you? massa would pass webber and then help alonso to get closer to both of them and pass them ... if that wouldn't work, massa would just let him go by and everything would be the same as it is now. how hard is that to understand?
Because that's such a farcical proposition. When has that ever been successfully executed in F1?
it doesn't mean it couldn't be done... took you 3 pages to realize what we where trying to say... :)

anyway, it's over... vettel will be WDC this year... i'm sure of it...
I got what you were trying to say, but it's such a far fetched strategy... There's a reason Ferrari didn't do it - it wouldn't work. At best Ferrari would end up with another PR disaster of Massa getting past Alonso only to have to relinquish the place later on in the race. Worse for them would be if Massa got past Alonso and Webber but Alonso wasn't able to follow him through. Massa would then have to let Webber past and then Alonso. How would that look?

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Massa had another great race.
Could he be pushing to keep his seat at Ferrari?

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Massa or others were sacrificed for less before.

And PR wise the (forbidden) team order of the past did not do much damge to their heritage/Image/sales/rep
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FrukostScones wrote:
myurr wrote:
FrukostScones wrote:....



really?
Yeah really. How would this order: Vet, Mas, Web, Alo be better for Alonso than Vet, Web, Alo, Mas?

They could have let Massa past Alonso. Massa was really flying. He could have attacked Webber. Maybe Webber and Massa would crash. They both DNF. Only one DNFs. Better or equal than before (if massa let Alo past again). Massa overtakes Webber. Webbers tyres shot. Alonso passes Webber. Alonso and Massa change positions. Or Massa overtakes Vet, Web 3, Alo 4. Better.
Massa mangages to overtake Webber but not Vet. Last lap he has a bad sector Webber and Alonso go past him. Old order restored.
Sounds like a good theory, but in reality it introduces too many variables. It would never be as straightforward as you describe it.

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Vettel already win this championship.... Newey is :wtf: :wtf: he deserve every penny
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Morteza wrote:
zeph wrote:
Morteza wrote:Now Ferrari are ahead of McLaren in WCC, aren't they?
I'd rather see Alonso ahead of Vettel...
Me too :(
Well we can claim this to be the best championship battle throughout his 3 WDC seasons because his car hadn't had the dominance of the past 2 season .

Also his 25 point loss in Valencia 12 points in Malaysia and 10 points in Monza (Perez would have easily had him therefore no 12 points) . {RBR & AN fan}

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Since Lewis told us about his move to Mercedes, everything has gone wrong for him. Bad setup twice in a row. Wasnt in the last episode of their show 'Tooned'. Hm... McLaren doing it on purpose? Not to give Lewis the chance of the drivers championship? Gut feeling of it. They just want to collect point for the constructors. Could be just paranoid :) But you got to admit its a weird coincidence.