Sebastian Vettel took the lead ahead of turn 1, never to give it away again and went on to win the Korean GP in controlled fashion. Mark Webber ran the entire race in second place and set the race's fastest lap. Fernando Alonso finished third, ahead of Felipe Massa.
FrukostScones wrote:not too many variables. only chance they had. they kind of accepted a ten points loss by putting Massa on hold.
only a PR desaster with us f1 fans, I doubt too many of us bought a Porsche instead.
But that perception of the brand permeates through to even those who are in the market for a Ferrari. It starts with the fans but also more importantly with the journalists. You get snide comments and jokes in articles about the cars, and the feeling about the brand starts to permeate throughout the media and public perception. Some people will like that image, others will shy away from it. Given how sensitive Ferrari have been about their image in news articles and reviews of their cars, and how they were willing to lie and try to deceive the public over their antics in the past, I'd say that their image is incredibly important to them and for good reason.
the point is team orders are alowed nowadays and no one would have complained if Mas an Alo switched pos. , if Massa had another pitstop, a locking tyre, a little mistake (to let also Webber by again) etc.
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.
FrukostScones wrote:the point is team orders are alowed nowadays and no one would have complained if Mas an Alo switched pos. , if Massa had another pitstop, a locking tyre, a little mistake (to let also Webber by again) etc.
The point is that team orders are allowed but not liked.
Alonso inside will be happy with today's result, damage limitation, 6 points is not alot with 4 races to go. Remember in 2010 which the year everyone is comparing this too, Alonso was the one who took the lead in Korea I believe with the media practically declaring him the champion and it didnt work out. India upgrades to come, Alonso will look to be in touching distance by the last GP.
Mark Webber, very disappointed in him, got murdered straight away at the start and that was the end of that he couldnt touch Vettel, he's a number 2 driver for sure, no fight today at all, never looked close to winning anything today.
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myurr wrote:Hamilton confirming in an interview that his car had a suspension failure. Again...
No way man. I wonder whether they're putting used parts on his car haha
FrukostScones wrote:
Shrieker wrote:What next for Hamilton lol. Meteor impact ?
holy cow on the track
Good one
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Fantastic drive from Le Incroyable Hulk. That boy is a future world champion. Would love to see him win a race next year.
I think since the summer break, Vettel has been on fire, driving to the same standard Alonso is and getting the maximum of his machinery, except for that Monza penalty.
McLaren are probably out of the WDC now. Interesting to see that Ferrari are now ahead of McLaren in the WCC. Impressive, given that one guy only has a smidgen of the other's points.
FrukostScones wrote:the point is team orders are alowed nowadays and no one would have complained if Mas an Alo switched pos. , if Massa had another pitstop, a locking tyre, a little mistake (to let also Webber by again) etc.
The point is that team orders are allowed but not liked.
which team order move was the last one you did not like
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.
FrukostScones wrote:which team order move was the last one you did not like
Personally probably when Massa was first told "Fernando is faster than you". However if they'd let Massa through, he'd gotten ahead of Webber, and then had to give up two places to let Alonso back through - a scenario you have proposed - then that would have been the latest one I did not like.
There's one thing switching places when only one driver has a shot at the title and it's a title battle where every single point still counts. It's something altogether different if you have to start giving up positions to other drivers in order to then let your team mate through.
Cylinder wrote:Alonso inside will be happy with today's result, damage limitation, 6 points is not alot with 4 races to go. Remember in 2010 which the year everyone is comparing this too, Alonso was the one who took the lead in Korea I believe with the media practically declaring him the champion and it didnt work out. India upgrades to come, Alonso will look to be in touching distance by the last GP.
Mark Webber, very disappointed in him, got murdered straight away at the start and that was the end of that he couldnt touch Vettel, he's a number 2 driver for sure, no fight today at all, never looked close to winning anything today.
In 2010 the Red Bulls were similarly ahead of the rest. Alonso needed the double DNF from Red Bull at Korea to take the championship lead. I imagine something will have to happen this year, or the upgrades work like a charm (but i don't think that is likely).
Another Ferrari classic: "Felipe, you are too close to Fernando. You need to back up at least 1 s."
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FrukostScones wrote:which team order move was the last one you did not like
Personally probably when Massa was first told "Fernando is faster than you". However if they'd let Massa through, he'd gotten ahead of Webber, and then had to give up two places to let Alonso back through - a scenario you have proposed - then that would have been the latest one I did not like.
There's one thing switching places when only one driver has a shot at the title and it's a title battle where every single point still counts. It's something altogether different if you have to start giving up positions to other drivers in order to then let your team mate through.
because the first one would not have happened (okay they would have told Alonso to let Massa past, so also team order).
I argue for this "crazy" theory because it would have been the dominant one and it would have brought some action.
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.
