2012 Indian Grand Prix - Buddh

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For 14 years i have been finding when the race starts using this convert to local time in f1.com site
but only time of the year i dont need to convert is here again, coz racetime and local time are same this weekend for me :) :)
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Live timing data - Free Practice 1

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Fastest laps
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Lap times comparison
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S.Vettel - RB
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J.Button - McLaren
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F.Alonso - Ferrari
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L.Hamilton - McLaren
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8) Interesting new parts on Massa's F2012
He lost suddenly rear df in a couple of moments

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FP2
BBC F1 technical analyst Gary Anderson
"Red Bull have been doing a bit of a set-up change on the front of Vettel's car. There's a thing call the third spring which stops the car touching the ground to support the car in a straight line or under braking. They have done a little change on that. On the Ferrari there is a rumour they have a modified diffuser. They did a straight-line test last week and that is one of the things that would have come out of that. You run the car with a kind of active suspension and you can assess the stall point on the diffuser. I'll see if I can spot it as the car goes out." BBC

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Practice 1: :: Sector times :: Lap Chart
Practice 2: :: Sector times :: Lap Chart

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Live timing data - Free Practice 2

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[FP2]
Both VET and WEB at the very bottom of the speed trap, 8 km/h down on VER and PER.

Averaged timed stints:
1. ALO 1:32.227 10 laps, 9 timed
2. VET 1:32.447 12 laps, 9 timed

Scary snap oversteer moments for Massa.

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Sky reported that Vettel's laps on the longer stint started at 1min33 then dipped to 1min31.2 nearly a second faster than anyone.....
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I remember hearing on the radio saying Hamilton had the fastest pace on heavy fuel, regardless you can't tell too much from practice, I saw as much. Some people pushing in certain places, and holding back in others. If you really want to know where people stack up look at the sector 3 times, whoever is fast there will be fast in the race. Even then you kind of have to take it with a grain of salt, because the track is constantly evolving and getting faster all the time. Not to mention people making mistakes during their fast runs, the difference in fuel loads, the quality of the tires.

It would be nice to get sector 3 comparisons during long runs, that would probably give us a good idea. From what I can see the Red Bull is still the fastest car, but it 's marginal compared to the last races. The Ferrari is fast, the McLaren is fast, the Williams and Lotus are fast, and believe it or not the Mercedes seems reasonably quick; let's hope they don't go backwards tomorrow.

The drivers with the top sector 3 times so far are Vettel, Webber, and Grosjean no one else got to 21.4 compare this to last year at the end of FP2 Vettel had a best sector time of 20.9 almost .3 up on everyone else, so it's definitely closer this year. The rest of the top drivers are in the 21.5 - 7 range so like I said it's close, if they can all improve for tomorrow, and get their fast laps sorted out it's going to be very close.
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FoxHound wrote:Sky reported that Vettel's laps on the longer stint started at 1min33 then dipped to 1min31.2 nearly a second faster than anyone.....
I'm pretty sure Alonso did a 1min31.4 just before that, and was more consistent throughout the stint, so I really don't think that's true.

Suddenly dropping way off the pace like Vettel and Hamilton were doing was always going to prolong the tyre life and allow them to push at the very end, but it's not a very realistic simulation of a race.

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f1316 wrote:
FoxHound wrote:Sky reported that Vettel's laps on the longer stint started at 1min33 then dipped to 1min31.2 nearly a second faster than anyone.....
I'm pretty sure Alonso did a 1min31.4 just before that, and was more consistent throughout the stint, so I really don't think that's true.

Suddenly dropping way off the pace like Vettel and Hamilton were doing was always going to prolong the tyre life and allow them to push at the very end, but it's not a very realistic simulation of a race.
Vettel's lap was without DRS open at all, not sure if Alonso was doing the same. Again it's sector 3 that's the real killer, that's the place that has the longest turns barring the 5-6, and 10-11 combo turns.
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godlameroso wrote:
f1316 wrote:
FoxHound wrote:Sky reported that Vettel's laps on the longer stint started at 1min33 then dipped to 1min31.2 nearly a second faster than anyone.....
I'm pretty sure Alonso did a 1min31.4 just before that, and was more consistent throughout the stint, so I really don't think that's true.

Suddenly dropping way off the pace like Vettel and Hamilton were doing was always going to prolong the tyre life and allow them to push at the very end, but it's not a very realistic simulation of a race.
Vettel's lap was without DRS open at all, not sure if Alonso was doing the same. Again it's sector 3 that's the real killer, that's the place that has the longest turns barring the 5-6, and 10-11 combo turns.
They were all doing race simulations at that point, so I'd be very surprised if any of them were using DRS.

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Then I have a feeling the race will be close and it's going to depend on strategy. Do you do a two stopper? Going option option prime? Or maybe a two stopper consisting of option prime prime so you can really push the crap out of the car. Or do you nurse it home with a one stopper?
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godlameroso wrote:Then I have a feeling the race will be close and it's going to depend on strategy. Do you do a two stopper? Going option option prime? Or maybe a two stopper consisting of option prime prime so you can really push the crap out of the car. Or do you nurse it home with a one stopper?
I disagree. Since Valencia eeryone has been doing variants of the same strategy - and it's always OOP or OPP. Other than Singapore, we haven't seen any other combo, except for OP at Spa/Monza and OP at Canada/Monaco.

The last variations were way back in Bahrain and Spain, where you had 2 stoppers vs 3 stoppers, OOPP vs OPPP etc

A 1stop here will come unfounded. This race last year was a comfortable OOP, as was Korea last year. Look at this year - Korea was marginal on OPP, and the 1stoppers had no pace. That's despite Korea only having a softer prime as the 2011 and 2012 supersofts are identical compounds. Here they'll be faced with a softer option and softer prime (though the nomenclature was reversed last year)

Wear (as opposed to degradation) will be the limiting factor here. Turn 10-11 has mighty camber, and the inner shoulder of the front right will be dragging across the surface as even the left front understeers.
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