he drove well today. he was unlucky yesterday, but he was lucky today. great salvage by red bull today.
vettel was litle clumsy today during overtaking.
Truth hurts doesnt itFrukostScones wrote:mods! cylinder deactivation please
Just saw that...So its not just some Vettel "haters" and "idiots" in this forum that think that. =D>myurr wrote:It's official. Hamilton just said that Vettel is the luckiest driver in formula one.
Narain had steering failure and made a full emergency breaking on the straight. Nico had no chance to avoid him.CHT wrote:Great race for vettel. What an amazing race and a big disappointment for webber.
Does anyone know what happen between Rosberg and narain?
This is why I mentioned Valencia. Maldonado had been pushed out of the track by Hamilton there, yet Maldonado got punished for rejoining the track in an unsafely manner. I don't see what was different in this incident, and I don't see what Massa could have done differently when Webber rejoined the track as he did. The stewards' decision on this is both inconsistent with previous similar incidents and sets a dangerous precedent. Basically, they are saying to Massa: well, since there was no contact it was fair play. Next time just crash onto him and we'll see!myurr wrote: Webber had already lost out so they didn't think he needed to be punished further. Massa / Webber was a little more difficult as Massa didn't really give him room on the outside of the corner, so again racing incident albeit a little more Webber's fault.
1) with Maldonado, he was locking up and slid into MW trying not to lose the place there, MW didn't leave room like Vettel did for Button, but still, both were somewhat responsible for it, how would you call it?andartop wrote:I don't get the stewards' decisions regarding Webber.
In the incident with Maldonado, I thought it was pretty clear that Webber shut the door too soon, yet it took them quite a long time to decide no further action. Agreed, you can call it racing incident, but it was definitely not Maldonado's fault this time given he was braking as hard as he could, obvious in the replays.
In the incident with Massa, Webber left the track and rejoined unsafely, scaring Massa into a spin. Regardless of how Mark ended up outside the track, he should have been more cautious rejoining. Exactly the same reasoning behind Maldonado's punishment in Valencia during the incident with Hamilton. Yet, it only took them a few seconds to announce no further action!
What on earth did they expect Massa to do, crash into him????
Webber was more than a half cars width to the right in the next corner, when he rejoined if I remember correctandartop wrote:This is why I mentioned Valencia. Maldonado had been pushed out of the track by Hamilton there, yet Maldonado got punished for rejoining the track in an unsafely manner. I don't see what was different in this incident, and I don't see what Massa could have done differently when Webber rejoined the track as he did. The stewards' decision on this is both inconsistent with previous similar incidents and sets a dangerous precedent. Basically, they are saying to Massa: well, since there was no contact it was fair play. Next time just crash onto him and we'll see!myurr wrote: Webber had already lost out so they didn't think he needed to be punished further. Massa / Webber was a little more difficult as Massa didn't really give him room on the outside of the corner, so again racing incident albeit a little more Webber's fault.
Looked much closer to me in the replay. Would love to watch it again. Still, if that doesn't qualify as unsafely rejoining the track I don't know what does...jz11 wrote: Webber was more than a half cars width to the right in the next corner, when he rejoined if I remember correct
zeph wrote:I am shocked at my own ability to point out the obvious...zeph wrote:Watch Vettel carve through the field tomorrow, and a timely SC to spice up what is otherwise a schnoozefest of a race on THE most boring track of the season.
Go Alonso!
His strategy was suppose to be a one stopper and he switch to a two stop because of damaged front wing. Yes safety cars helps but then again you will still have to past over 20 cars safely without crashing or spinning out.myurr wrote:
Show why. What moves did Vettel make? Where would he have been had he not gained 35 seconds under the two safety cars? He was incredibly lucky with how that race panned out, and in terms of what he did he just drove fairly fast. In free air when they were both running, Hamilton was a few tenths a lap quicker, so you can't even say Vettel had field leading pace. He was just quick enough to take advantage of the way the race panned out, rather than being spectacular.
I really don't think Vettel fans live in reality..... the kid is a top driver no doubt, but no one can tell me all these top drivers he was overtaking in today's "amazing drive".Poleman wrote:Just saw that...So its not just some Vettel "haters" and "idiots" in this forum that think that. =D>myurr wrote:It's official. Hamilton just said that Vettel is the luckiest driver in formula one.
Seriously are you blindCylinder wrote:siskue2005 wrote:Hahaha, all the Alonso fans are crying luck luck etc etc
It was luck which also brought him so close to Wdc this year
Name me the top drivers Vettel overtook today, please......name these great overtakes during this amazing drive.