Scuderia Ferrari 2012

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We have clearly seen all year the horrible coorilation issues Ferrari suffers between sim and track. Off season is almost here and it looks like they will go into that space in about the same position as they were at the start of this year as they develop the 2013 car.

During the off season, are teams not allowed to run on track at all? I forget what is permitted in the off season.
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ART 22 of the 2012 FIA Sporting Regulations:

Track testing is not allowed with cars that conform to this or last year's rules between one week before the first GP and December 31st with the following exceptions:
The teams have the opportunity of one three day test, one three day young driver test, and a one day test for a driver who shall substitute another during the ongoing championship.
Plus there are four one day aerodynamic straight line or constant radius tests allowed which can take place from January 1st to the beginning of the last GP event and each may be substituted for four hours of wind-on full scale wind tunnel testing to be carried out in a single 24h period.
Promotional events such as filming days are allowed with specific tyres.

Further restrictions:
- No more than 15,000 km during a calendar year (does not imply young driver test and promotional venues)
- Not whilst a Championship Event is taking place
- Not in August (except the substituted driver test)

Plus then the pre-season testing, but I don't know where it is regulated.
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How much is going to hurt the fact that the team is not testing this week like RB and Macca?.

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f1universe wrote:How much is going to hurt the fact that the team is not testing this week like RB and Macca?.
IMO, it will hurt them, can't say how much though. RBR and McLaren will have 3 days of crucial track time where in they can test new parts and may be even gain a few tenths if possible. Whereas Ferrari will have to rely on their CFD and WT to come up with updates which is still a bit of unknown to them.

So its obvious that 3 days of track time lost would cost them, but by how much? That we will see in the next GP..

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banibhusan wrote:
f1universe wrote:How much is going to hurt the fact that the team is not testing this week like RB and Macca?.
IMO, it will hurt them, can't say how much though. RBR and McLaren will have 3 days of crucial track time where in they can test new parts and may be even gain a few tenths if possible. Whereas Ferrari will have to rely on their CFD and WT to come up with updates which is still a bit of unknown to them.

So its obvious that 3 days of track time lost would cost them, but by how much? That we will see in the next GP..
You see, this is the thing that I cannot understand with Ferrari.
Why didnt they test? Surely they can do with the track time. There is a 2nd place in the constructors to wrap up, as well as a WDC! Surely track testing is better than CFD and WT...Surely?!
I see this as...bye bye WDC title! Talk about shooting yourself in the foot....actually both feet.

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Gerhardsa wrote: You see, this is the thing that I cannot understand with Ferrari.
Why didnt they test? Surely they can do with the track time. There is a 2nd place in the constructors to wrap up, as well as a WDC! Surely track testing is better than CFD and WT...Surely?!
I see this as...bye bye WDC title! Talk about shooting yourself in the foot....actually both feet.
They used up their test in France, so they couldn't participate in Abu Dhabi test.

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A positive step to the future for Ferrari.

http://www.inautonews.com/ferrari-appoi ... Jz55oaP88k

Just checked his profile and background, Eddie Cue is a force to be reckoned within the corporate world. Currently he holds a lot of respect and has open avenues at his disposal in terms of marketability and profitability.

What does this mean for Scuderia Ferrari?

It would mean that with Eddie apart of the think tank, brains group of the board it will hopefully increase Scuderia Ferrari's resources in the long term. *fingers crossed*
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Bomber_Pilot wrote:
Gerhardsa wrote: You see, this is the thing that I cannot understand with Ferrari.
Why didnt they test? Surely they can do with the track time. There is a 2nd place in the constructors to wrap up, as well as a WDC! Surely track testing is better than CFD and WT...Surely?!
I see this as...bye bye WDC title! Talk about shooting yourself in the foot....actually both feet.
They used up their test in France, so they couldn't participate in Abu Dhabi test.
hmm...I didnt know the YDT was part of it.
Thanks for clearing that up

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Ferrari held today and tomorrow a test Idiada, the last of the 8 available
http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/23106/ ... -ad-idiada
To retrieve the 10 points separating Fernando Alonso Sebastian Vettel can not leave anything to chance and that's why yesterday several Ferrari engineers have been spotted at Malpensa, where they were embarking in the direction of Spain. AERO TEST IDIADA Between now and tomorrow, in fact, the men of the Horse to exploit Idiada, near Tarragona, the last test aerodynamic available this season. A test which should in a sense try to compensate for the work done by rivals Red Bull in recent days in Abu Dhabi, during the Rookie Test NEW 'TO TRY On F2012 you should see the aero package that will be used to Austin and Interlagos: Ferrari is ready to fire each cartridge that is available to improve the competitiveness of the Red Army in comparison with Red Bull Racing. IMPROVE THE STATUS is not only refinements of the changes introduced in the latest releases in respect of wings, turning vanes and the bottom but the solutions that must be tested to make the car more competitive in qualifying, which is proving to be the real Achilles heel of Ferrari. TECHNICIAN FROM MCLAREN Already in Abu Dhabi expected results from new, but not all has worked well: in particular, the rear wing is evolving after McLaren came from a French specialist in aerodynamics who was in charge of this area of the car.
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Ferrari aerodynamic test performed Idiada

Ferrari has again Idiada, which already was before after the Korean GP / PHOTO: JEON HEON-KYUN - EFE
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Raymond Blancafort 10/11/2012 11:41

Luca Montezemolo gave 'order' to win in the United States and Ferrari are putting all eggs in one basket. This Saturday and Sunday the team is at the Spanish track of Idiada in Santa Oliva , near El Vendrell , to test aerodynamic parts.

Although the test circuit are prohibited during the season, teams are empowered to carry out 8 days straight aerodynamic test to check the wind tunnel data. Ferrari and his last burn cartridges overlooking the Circuit of the Americas next week and also for the Brazilian GP , within fifteen days, two trials in which Fernando Alonso played their title chances.

According to indiscretions, Ferrari test a new flat bottom, a new front wing and a new rear spoiler, upgraded with DRS, and seeks above all to improve in qualifying. Could not be completely new parts but some of the modified and duly tested and optimized.

The track is an oval Idiada high speed with its two main lines of over 2 kilometers and also out of sight of curious alcancede. This complex of Santa Oliva has a whole range of different types of tracks for testing new models from brands and has virtually complete occupation queesta so serious reason why Ferrari would prove at the weekend.
I guess we need to test to make up for the fact the rest tested at Abu Dhabi.

Edit: Apologies for the bad post. Didn't mean to offend or fuel the fire. Pls delete if necessary
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jonaliew wrote:

Ferrari test a new flat bottom, a new front wing and a new rear spoiler, upgraded with DRS, and seeks above all to improve in qualifying. Could not be completely new parts but some of the modified and duly tested and optimized.
Now, where have I heard that before?

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My bad. I didn't mean to post something bad. Just adding those who mentioned the ibida test. Apologies. #-o

And yes, I agree we have heard so much of the same thing.

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Since when is it 8 days of straight line tests?
2012 & 2013 FIA Sporting Regulations ART 22.4 a) iii) wrote: Four one day aerodynamic tests carried out on FIA approved straight line or constant radius sites between 1 January of the current year and the start of the last Event of the Championship. Any of these days may be substituted for four hours of wind-on full scale wind tunnel testing to be carried out in a single twenty four hour period.
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Trucks were spotted:

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So that definitely validates they were testing.

Idiada Circuit from elevated area surrounding the circuit:

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2km straights each side of the oval circuit which would be perfect for testing flow over the current Abu Dhabi Spec FW and RW (with tweaks).

I don't know whether they would be testing DDRS as that would be seen as a large gamble.
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