2012 Brazilian GP - Interlagos

[lukeaar]

Regarding weather forecasts, nowhere seems to agree on Saturday, but Sunday is unanimously rainy.

Accuweather:

When looking at the details here, they reckon no rain until the evening on Saturday, but they think that there may be up to 20 mm during the day on Sunday.

TWC:


Weather underground:

Saturday:
Overcast in the morning, then partly cloudy with a chance of a thunderstorm and rain. High of 33C. Winds from the NW at 10 to /h. Chance of rain 40%.
Sunday:
Overcast with a chance of rain. Fog early. High of 21C. Breezy. Winds from the SSE at 10 to /h. Chance of rain 70% with rainfall amounts near 13.5 mm possible.


So, my educated guess based on the above is a hot, dry quali and a cool, wet (very wet?) race.

[adam2003]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLmxhpc7Tck

schumacher on fire!

[f1316]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLmxhpc7Tck

schumacher on fire!

He was so fast that weekend. Shame about the mechanical issues. Even with it, he would sitll probably have won the race without the puncture.

[f1316]

I wonder what would happen if Massa desperately crashed into Vettel and Alonso won. Not that I think Ferrari would route for this scenario (Flavio would ), but the FIA can't punish Alonso for team mate action, can they?

History tells us (from '95) that even if you do it, you won't lose the WDC.

1990 tells us the same.

[Joie de vivre]

And Ferrari fired him. =D>

[adam2003]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLmxhpc7Tck

schumacher on fire!

He was so fast that weekend. Shame about the mechanical issues. Even with it, he would sitll probably have won the race without the puncture.

Another 10 laps he would of won, he was in a different race, taking on over 20laps of fuel and setting fastest lap straight away

[godlameroso]

Ok here's my weather prediction for the weekend, and it's usually right

Friday, dry running relatively hot
Saturday, a small chance of rain probably won't happen during FP3 or Qualifying
Sunday, It will be rainy, the track will start off wet/damp dry up a bit, with another rain shower at about the latter mid point of the race which will fade to a trickle and last till the end of the race.

What I hope will end with a wet podium ceremony, the rain will hide Alonso's tears of joy as he wins the championship by 4 points.

[banibhusan]

If it really happens and Alonso wins the championship by such a close margin, then it'll be one of the best WDC wins in the history of F1. We have seen so many closely fought championship battles over the years, but this year there is something special. One hand we have Alonso who doesn't have the fastest car (never had throughout the year except may be Germany or in the wet) and still doing all he could every weekend to get as many points as possible and on the other hand we have Vettel who has had the fastest car since Japan and started dominating ever since by collecting the maximum points in the last 3rd of the season to stage a fightback.

I believe whoever wins will deserve the title. But somehow there is an inner feeling which says Alonso will win and if it happens it'll be something spectacular. No matter what happens, Alonso will be the driver of the year and the "People's champion".

[Vasconia]

Remember Brazil 2003? a very wet race could a be a carnage, and I like it. But I dont want to see another terrible accident like the one Alonso and Webber suffered.

[beelsebob]

Remember Brazil 2003? a very wet race could a be a carnage, and I like it. But I dont want to see another terrible accident like the one Alonso and Webber suffered.

like the one Alonso caused.

This event was what caused me to hate Alonso for so long.

[raymondu999]

Can someone clarify something for me? There's something which IMO has been practiced (and for some time) different to how the regs are written.

Meet Article 43.2 of the sporting regs:

43.2 Should for any reason the end‐of‐race signal be given before the leading car completes the scheduled number of laps, or the prescribed time has been completed, the race will be deemed to have finished when the leading car last crossed the Line before the signal was given.
Should the end‐of‐ race signal be delayed for any reason, the race will be deemed to have finished when it should have finished.

Say you have the 71-lap Interlagos race. At the 2 hour mark, the race leader is in the middle of Sector 2, on his 69th lap. That means 68 complete laps.

Does the race end at the end of lap 68, or the end of lap 69?

Looking at precedent (the last two incidents have been Monaco 2008 and Singapore 2012) the race will end, at the end of that lap (ie in my example, it will end after 69 laps). But what about "the race will be deemed to have finished when the leading car last crossed the Line before the signal was given?"

Thanks.

[CHT]

If it really happens and Alonso wins the championship by such a close margin, then it'll be one of the best WDC wins in the history of F1. We have seen so many closely fought championship battles over the years, but this year there is something special. One hand we have Alonso who doesn't have the fastest car (never had throughout the year except may be Germany or in the wet) and still doing all he could every weekend to get as many points as possible and on the other hand we have Vettel who has had the fastest car since Japan and started dominating ever since by collecting the maximum points in the last 3rd of the season to stage a fightback.

I believe whoever wins will deserve the title. But somehow there is an inner feeling which says Alonso will win and if it happens it'll be something spectacular. No matter what happens, Alonso will be the driver of the year and the "People's champion".

I thought Lewis and Vettel first WDC was just as great. And they did it without much help from team and teammate

[beelsebob]

Can someone clarify something for me? There's something which IMO has been practiced (and for some time) different to how the regs are written.

Meet Article 43.2 of the sporting regs:

43.2 Should for any reason the end‐of‐race signal be given before the leading car completes the scheduled number of laps, or the prescribed time has been completed, the race will be deemed to have finished when the leading car last crossed the Line before the signal was given.
Should the end‐of‐ race signal be delayed for any reason, the race will be deemed to have finished when it should have finished.

Say you have the 71-lap Interlagos race. At the 2 hour mark, the race leader is in the middle of Sector 2, on his 69th lap. That means 68 complete laps.

Does the race end at the end of lap 68, or the end of lap 69?

Looking at precedent (the last two incidents have been Monaco 2008 and Singapore 2012) the race will end, at the end of that lap (ie in my example, it will end after 69 laps). But what about "the race will be deemed to have finished when the leading car last crossed the Line before the signal was given?"

Thanks.

The end of race signal is not issued until the lead car crosses the line for the first time after 2 hours is up, it is not issued at 2 hours.

I do remember incidences of the red flag being brought out, the race being ended there, and indeed in those instances the race has been rolled back to the last time the leader crossed the line. I remember a couple of times where this meant that someone didn't get the overtake they made half way round the next lap.

[beelsebob]

I thought Lewis and Vettel first WDC was just as great. And they did it without much help from team and teammate

Hah, the RB6 was the single most dominant car there's been in F1 for near on a couple of decades. The fact that he only did it by the skin of his teeth shows how much he didn't do it without much help.

[raymondu999]

The end of race signal is not issued until the lead car crosses the line for the first time after 2 hours is up, it is not issued at 2 hours.

I do remember incidences of the red flag being brought out, the race being ended there, and indeed in those instances the race has been rolled back to the last time the leader crossed the line. I remember a couple of times where this meant that someone didn't get the overtake they made half way round the next lap.

Yes, but (in bold)

43.2 Should for any reason the end‐of‐race signal be given before the leading car completes the scheduled number of laps, or the prescribed time has been completed, the race will be deemed to have finished when the leading car last crossed the Line before the signal was given.
Should the end‐of‐ race signal be delayed for any reason, the race will be deemed to have finished when it should have finished.

It says Should for any reason [...] or the prescribed time has been completed. Wouldn't the 2 hour time limit fit as "prescribed time has been completed?

I thought Lewis and Vettel first WDC was just as great. And they did it without much help from team and teammate

Hah, the RB6 was the single most dominant car there's been in F1 for near on a couple of decades. The fact that he only did it by the skin of his teeth shows how much he didn't do it without much help.

To be fair - a spark plug, brake disc and an engine conspired against him too.