Firstly, he kinda gave it away when he slipped on the rado after and said "Welcome to 2009!"dren wrote:I think Button thought he had another BrawnGP car after that race. It was likely the team just nailed the tire and car set-up. They fell back a bit afterwards.
McLaren and capitalising, those 2 words don't fit in the same sentence.Gridlock wrote:Firstly, he kinda gave it away when he slipped on the rado after and said "Welcome to 2009!"dren wrote:I think Button thought he had another BrawnGP car after that race. It was likely the team just nailed the tire and car set-up. They fell back a bit afterwards.
Secondly, who was going to compete in those first races? The -1.5s Ferrari? The still-struggling-without-EBD RB7? No surprise they walked it, as much as you can these days. I pray the 28 is as strong out of the box, and McLaren capitalise on it.
Isn't that the point of having the fastest car at any given race weekend?Gridlock wrote:who was going to compete in those first races? The -1.5s Ferrari? The still-struggling-without-EBD RB7? No surprise they walked it
It's already pretty well established that the issue was nothing to do with tyres. McLaren would have been 2012 constructors and drivers champions if they hadn't --- up so much. Simple as that.CjC wrote:If we have to keep looking back at 2012 on the eve of the 2013 season, then here's my opinion-
Mclaren would be 2012 constructors and drivers champions if the season was ran on Pirellis 2011 sec tyres, however the season was ran on Pirellis 2012 sec tyre so no one got a handle on the tyres properly until Silverstone time-ish, so arguably the best team won.
Anyway as this is the MP4-28 thread and its Friday the 4th of January 2013 today that means its on 27 days till Mclarens launch and a launch that I'm eagerly anticipating. I'm sure it'll get the same reaction as last year - 'is that it?'
I honestly can't think of a single --- up that was caused by the 2011 tyres, or them being under pressure. They mostly happened while they were in a very good position in the championship.CjC wrote:Yes but if the tyres were the 2011 known quantity, I dont think they would have been under the same pressure and wouldnt have snuffed it up the same.
Im not blaming the tyres, they made a great season
To be fair, McLaren launch a 'concept' made out of papier mache and chewing gum. You can get the gist (U side pods, coanda exhaust or what have you) but the... thing they unveil is just for PR. If you look at it funny it'll deflate.CjC wrote:I'm sure it'll get the same reaction as last year - 'is that it?'
The Slim family (aka Carlos Slim) will be honoring its contractual agreement with the Sauber Formula 1 team (The Slim Family still hold a 49.1% ownership of the company).CjC wrote:One interesting point to look out for, away from the technical aspect of the car is will there be any Mexican sponsors? You'd imagine Telmex and Vodafone can't be on the same car..
pull-rod, push-rod, could-rod, let's-rod, wait 3 and half week and you will see. no one knows what system will they use.Hail22 wrote:Anyone got an idea whether Mclaren will be doing a Front/Rear Pullrod suspension system?CjC wrote:One interesting point to look out for, away from the technical aspect of the car is will there be any Mexican sponsors? You'd imagine Telmex and Vodafone can't be on the same car..
Neno wrote:pull-rod, push-rod, could-rod, let's-rod, wait 3 and half week and you will see. no one knows what system will they use.Hail22 wrote:Anyone got an idea whether Mclaren will be doing a Front/Rear Pullrod suspension system?CjC wrote:One interesting point to look out for, away from the technical aspect of the car is will there be any Mexican sponsors? You'd imagine Telmex and Vodafone can't be on the same car..