Team: James Allison (TD), Naoki Tokunaga (DTD), Tim Densham (CD), Dirk De Beer (HA), Gerard Lopez (Chairman), Eric Boullier (TP), Patrick Louis (COO), John Mardle (OD), Steve Nielsen (SD), Alan Permane (CRE)
Drivers: Kimi Räikkönen (7), Romain Grosjean (8)
Exactly my thoughtsBlackout wrote:That is an E20. E20 sidopds (early version). E20 floor. E20 everything.Even the dust is there, you clould see it in every split. Exactly like last year with the fake R31. When the real E20 left the garages for the first time, it looked brand new. And obviously every part changed.
Yeah, they made a new rear bodywork and added some winglets to make it look like the new car... just like last year's presentation...
I don't agree on this. I think they have to account for their last year chassis fiasco with front suspension. Yes, they fixed it eventually but it's nothing like clean design.Blackout wrote:In the other hand, maybe Lotus decided to keep the same design for the monocoque. Why not ? it could help them to spare money, time and even training (for the mecancis) but it would be the first time.
We? Do you think everyone is as easily deceived as you?amouzouris wrote:Really? still on about the whole E20 thing...we disagree...you won't change our mind we won't change yours..its over... Focus on what's really important..Did you even notice the new sidepod leading edge flow conditioner and VG's? that setup will reduce the strength of the vortices substantially..did you wonder why?
And you are still pushing it... ''The devil is in the details''... that's what you are missing.. And i really didn't to bring this up...but the guys who think that is is the new car..Beelsebob, Gridlock, myself have actually had multiple upvotes which maybe indicates that they know what they are talking about... Yourself, Blackout and korzeniow have very little upvotes for your contribution to the forum with technical knowledge.. as for korzeniow's 4 star post in which his lists the front wing, the nose, rollhoop, turning vanes, rear wing and sidepod air intakes...and then he states that these 6 features are ''everything'' and he highlights it with bolt letters...FrukostScones wrote:We? Do you think everyone is as easily deceived as you?amouzouris wrote:Really? still on about the whole E20 thing...we disagree...you won't change our mind we won't change yours..its over... Focus on what's really important..Did you even notice the new sidepod leading edge flow conditioner and VG's? that setup will reduce the strength of the vortices substantially..did you wonder why?
the truth lies in upvotes,amouzouris wrote:And you are still pushing it... ''The devil is in the details''... that's what you are missing.. And i really didn't to bring this up...but the guys who think that is is the new car..Beelsebob, Gridlock, myself have actually had multiple upvotes which maybe indicates that they know what they are talking about... Yourself, Blackout and korzeniow have very little upvotes for your contribution to the forum with technical knowledge.. as for korzeniow's 4 star post in which his lists the front wing, the nose, rollhoop, turning vanes, rear wing and sidepod air intakes...and then he states that these 6 features are ''everything'' and he highlights it with bolt letters...FrukostScones wrote:We? Do you think everyone is as easily deceived as you?amouzouris wrote:Really? still on about the whole E20 thing...we disagree...you won't change our mind we won't change yours..its over... Focus on what's really important..Did you even notice the new sidepod leading edge flow conditioner and VG's? that setup will reduce the strength of the vortices substantially..did you wonder why?
Good example. you are talking about the vertical VG Lotus brought in Melbourne ? and the horizontal winglets Sauber introduced during the tests and inspired Mclaren later ? or are you talking about the 'bulges' on the upper and lower lips of the air intake ? in all these cases you are analysing a FAKE car and aero devices that are well known. An Old car with 'new' parts which maybe were made with stereolithography 3 days agoamouzouris wrote:Focus on what's really important..Did you even notice the new sidepod leading edge flow conditioner and VG's? that setup will reduce the strength of the vortices substantially..did you wonder why?
I doubt that.FrukostScones wrote: edit: I have to admit that I have no technical degree, but at least I can use my eyes; and I can think!
1+1=?wesley123 wrote:I doubt that.FrukostScones wrote: edit: I have to admit that I have no technical degree, but at least I can use my eyes; and I can think!
Alisson: The front and rear suspension layouts are substantially revised to try and give us better aerodynamic opportunities.amouzouris wrote:And you are still pushing it... ''The devil is in the details''... that's what you are missing.. And i really didn't to bring this up...but the guys who think that is is the new car..Beelsebob, Gridlock, myself have actually had multiple upvotes which maybe indicates that they know what they are talking about... Yourself, Blackout and korzeniow have very little upvotes for your contribution to the forum with technical knowledge.. as for korzeniow's 4 star post in which his lists the front wing, the nose, rollhoop, turning vanes, rear wing and sidepod air intakes...and then he states that these 6 features are ''everything'' and he highlights it with bolt letters...
