2013 Testing - Jerez 5-8 Feb

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Anyone have lap data for Redbull and Mercedes from 12:04 to 12:15? The site i was following stopped updating for that period and it seems both Redbull and Mercedes were on several lap runs.

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PsychdbyF1 wrote:
kris wrote:
PsychdbyF1 wrote:how come all teams are running only one driver on a given day? I remember how Michael schumacher once had the spare car (the 3rd car) set up differently for different weather conditions and he switched cars at one point.

Also, how come for one driver there is only one car? I understand different drivers have different set up requirments and preferences, but for base line running, could Nico not have used Lewis' car on Day 1 and similarly after the brake failure, could Lewis not have used Nico's car for the low speed aero runs he is doing today?

similarly, why would massa need to wait in the pits while his exhuast configurations were changed?

or is that there is only one pit crew for both teams? confused!
I believe testing limitaitons.. 1 car.. 1 team
i find it a strange that teams like Mercedes and Mclaren ran only 15 odd and 37 odd laps on day one of the test while other teams ran as much as 70 laps on the same day...that's a difference of almost a race distance in a day..! :o all because of this limitation? if it exists? teams seem to want more testing (atleast some of them) and can they not optimise testing better if they don't have such limitations? or would it be a cost-race again?
Mercedes had the wiring loom (or whatever) fire which took them a day to fix up..They had issues that took a long time getting fixed .. So they could only run as many laps as they could..
Rules are FIA fixed.. Williams are not running their new car in this test.. they don't get a new test..
The testing was infinite some seasons ago and teams used it as much as they could..Currently we are in an era of cost effective F1..

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i find it a strange that teams like Mercedes and Mclaren ran only 15 odd and 37 odd laps on day one of the test while other teams ran as much as 70 laps on the same day...[/quote]
Mercedes only ran so few laps on days 1 and 2 because of 1) an electrical failure and fire 2) a brake failure causing hamilton to crash the car.
McLaren ran so few laps on day 1 because of a fuel pump failure.[/quote][/quote]

Agreed.
But my question is how come on day 1, Nico didn't jump into the the other Merc to continue his testing programme as well as he could in the other car? I think there must be some things which he could have done in the other car, no? He still had atleast half a day's time left before Lewis took over on Day 2. And similarly with Lewis. And with Jenson.

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10minutes is missing. But nothin special happend form the feeds I read. BTW Massa agian under 1:18 (1:17.886 (33))
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PsychdbyF1 wrote: Agreed.
But my question is how come on day 1, Nico didn't jump into the the other Merc to continue his testing programme as well as he could in the other car? I think there must be some things which he could have done in the other car, no? He still had atleast half a day's time left before Lewis took over on Day 2. And similarly with Lewis. And with Jenson.
Each team is only allowed one (built up) car, so there is no second car available for them to switch to.

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Again live timing stops! It seems whenever Redbull goes out, the timing magically stops!

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gloomyandy wrote:
PsychdbyF1 wrote: Agreed.
But my question is how come on day 1, Nico didn't jump into the the other Merc to continue his testing programme as well as he could in the other car? I think there must be some things which he could have done in the other car, no? He still had atleast half a day's time left before Lewis took over on Day 2. And similarly with Lewis. And with Jenson.
Each team is only allowed one (built up) car, so there is no second car available for them to switch to.
Thanks! you're right..just looked it up --> http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules ... 3/fia.html , rule no. 22.4 (b)
i guess it's cost as well.

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PsychdbyF1 wrote:
gloomyandy wrote:
PsychdbyF1 wrote: Agreed.
But my question is how come on day 1, Nico didn't jump into the the other Merc to continue his testing programme as well as he could in the other car? I think there must be some things which he could have done in the other car, no? He still had atleast half a day's time left before Lewis took over on Day 2. And similarly with Lewis. And with Jenson.
Each team is only allowed one (built up) car, so there is no second car available for them to switch to.
Thanks! you're right..just looked it up --> http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules ... 3/fia.html , rule no. 22.4 (b)
i guess it's cost as well.
It's a bit hilarious though, since the top teams at least have the absolute maximum of tubs built (4? I think). They probably also have on-hand all the other necessary parts to build 4 cars, they're just not allowed to have them built all at the same time.

I read somewhere that a F1 car is considered an F1 car when the chassis + engine + gearbox is connected, so just taking off the backend stop is being a built car and just a heap of parts. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Scintillating time by Massa in the Ferrari 1'17"8. I am sure the Red Bull, Lotus and McLaren will be keen on trying to top that time.

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Good to see Rosberg put some good mileage to the W04 after two days of misfortune (82 laps so far).

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Briton, James Rossiter has run over a mechanic at Force India. I hope all is well. :)

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12:35 Lewis Hamilton said Mercedes needed to get in more than 100 laps today to get back on track, and Nico Rosberg is going the right way about it - he's on 86 for the morning, 14 more than any other driver.
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Just got back to the desk.....the internet connection is awfull today....my live timing is down.....Whats happening in Jerez guys?

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I think testing is more about quality than quantity, each team will have its own program to get through, ride heights, fule loads, castor settings etc which I would expect to be standard accorss all teams, I guess they'll then run specific tests for strong or weak points of their car. Looking at the times across two drivers on different days isn't really fair, chances are they will be running completely defferent programs.

I remember last year that Ferarry clocked up most miles in nearly every single test, what good did it do them, they started the season with a dog.

For me only the last test counts for times, that's when they bolt on their race spec package, untill then there are just too many variables, this is a time for iroing out niggles.

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By the pace of the Mercedes it looks like they're thereabouts they need more performance to challenge at the front but they're definitely up there.
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