Mercedes AMG F1 W04

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At Sky Sports F1 Ted Kravitz says that they are allowed to do that.

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Owen.C93 wrote:
Rikhart wrote:But that spoon opening is clearly separate from the starter hole...
That's why it's joined by a paper thin slit.
Indeed, it's an old trick
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wesley123 wrote:
Owen.C93 wrote:
Rikhart wrote:But that spoon opening is clearly separate from the starter hole...
That's why it's joined by a paper thin slit.
Indeed, it's an old trick
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Doesnt look like a little slit, looks like 2 separate and independent openings to me, but thanks for the clarification, I guess that interpretation makes it legal (Although I can see it working with the version ferrari have of using the starter hole and expanding it into a similar shape, not with this one, but what do I know :wink: ).

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Rikhart wrote:
wesley123 wrote:
Owen.C93 wrote: That's why it's joined by a paper thin slit.
Indeed, it's an old trick
http://i48.tinypic.com/2ljrmgy.jpg

Doesnt look like a little slit, looks like 2 separate and independent openings to me, but thanks for the clarification, I guess that interpretation makes it legal (Although I can see it working with the version ferrari have of using the starter hole and expanding it into a similar shape, not with this one, but what do I know :wink: ).
There is a maximum amount of area allowed for the starter motor hole. So by using a separate slit Merc can have more freedom on where they put it, rather that making it exactly inline with the gearbox starter.
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Why are we talking about a hole that has been on the car since Pre-Season Testing 2012?

Rushman
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As an option of combining the slot for "mDD" with the hole for starter:

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windtravels
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Huntresa wrote:Why are we talking about a hole that has been on the car since Pre-Season Testing 2012?
Its beyond me!

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windtravels wrote:
Huntresa wrote:Why are we talking about a hole that has been on the car since Pre-Season Testing 2012?
Its beyond me!

Cause someone wanted to create a stink about something without reading the pages of this and the PY thread...seriously ppl...read before posting.

Neno
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windtravels wrote:
Huntresa wrote:Why are we talking about a hole that has been on the car since Pre-Season Testing 2012?
Its beyond me!
I told somewhere already, couple of low fuel runs and quick laps from Merc and people immediatly trying to find their advantages, and discover their performances even if is just ordinary starter hole. Causing ruckus here on forum just to short time between last test and australia. But i love good pointless topic, it's good entertaiment

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mantikos wrote:
windtravels wrote:
Huntresa wrote:Why are we talking about a hole that has been on the car since Pre-Season Testing 2012?
Its beyond me!

Cause someone wanted to create a stink about something without reading the pages of this and the PY thread...seriously ppl...read before posting.
Why bother to criticize him for being curious and carry things off-topic. Besides, ALOT of pure BS gets posted as fact on here, especially concerning aerodynamics. I applaud him for not automatically accepting some explanation(even if it is probably correct) without a little more info.
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mantikos
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Pierce89 wrote:
mantikos wrote:[quote="windtravels]

Its beyond me!

Cause someone wanted to create a stink about something without reading the pages of this and the PY thread...seriously ppl...read before posting.
Why bother to criticize him for being curious and carry things off-topic. Besides, ALOT of pure BS gets posted as fact on here, especially concerning aerodynamics. I applaud him for not automatically accepting some explanation(even if it is probably correct) without a little more info.[/quote][/quote][/quote]


I'll give you a concise answer - because ppl don't read before posting.

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Kimi the latest driver to back the W04 to shine, in Oz atleast.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/formula-1 ... ns-1743038
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It will be down to how well the cars use the tires in warmer weather. With the operating range much larger, I don't expect the performance drop that many saw in qualifying last year when they didn't get the set-up just right. That doesn't mean degradation won't hit them in the race.
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Ted Kravitz mentioned on the final notebook of testing how the sides of the W04's diffuser exit projected air outwards like the Lotus. I recall one of the driver's mentioning that the Lotus was the hardest car to follow in 2012 because it created a lot of turbulent air, has Mercedes used this type of diffuser on purpose to disrupt the aerodynamics of following cars?

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Anon123 wrote:Ted Kravitz mentioned on the final notebook of testing how the sides of the W04's diffuser exit projected air outwards like the Lotus. I recall one of the driver's mentioning that the Lotus was the hardest car to follow in 2012 because it created a lot of turbulent air, has Mercedes used this type of diffuser on purpose to disrupt the aerodynamics of following cars?
Probably used it because it works better at creating downforce for them.
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