Ferrari F138

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joalma
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Mr.G wrote:I don't believe they can copy it in such short time, it must be in development before. And running it in race without testing?
I doubt

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They don't have much of a choice. Simulation + Fridays is the only way to do testing due to the rules. Also, I don't see it to be a problem, since the suspension can be replaced with relative ease. How this change ties in with the total aerodynamic of the car (side pod changes, turning vanes, koanda exhaust, etc.) would be the hardest part. We'll see if they take the risk
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I have a feeling they haven't copied it, I think it's just the bracket and nothing more

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Agree with Enzo. It's too far away from the face of the brake to be part of the wheel nut assembly. A think its part of the setup rig.
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Also no duckt visible on the picture from this angle.
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Sebp
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I bet this new duct brings them 6 tents! :roll:
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hold on a minute, this is a picture from another forum.

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from this angle it does look hollow.
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Sebp wrote:I bet this new duct brings them 6 tents! :roll:
a couple of these? ;)

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Crabbia wrote:hold on a minute, this is a picture from another forum.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BFOxtc8CAAA40-Q.jpg:large

from this angle it does look hollow.
I'm going to guess most if not all of the shafts are hollow. They don't need to be solid. It doesn't look to exhaust like the Williams does though.
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Some direct comparison:

This is F2012
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F138
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This is the brake air inlet of F2012

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seems very similar to the F138 one

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aleks_ader
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Thats hole in the hub is nothing new, they had hollow (throw or partially) already...

Look pic of F2012 - China circuit...
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EDIT: They just later added the conical cover with two safety elements. Wheel hub (violet color) must be hollow inside because its rotating around axis.

Like this old rear hub...
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http://shrani.si/f/R/NS/4biFU4si/t2ec16 ... broglb.jpg

And because front and also rear hub assembly must be 100% stiff on the axis they decide to add conical element after securing the hub on the axis (nut, ring or whatever else)...

After fully assebly of front hub (F2012, after Valencia race)...

http://photos.gpupdate.net/large/204461.jpg
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joseff
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I think the silver duct feeds the caliper, not the axle hole. Here's a picture of a similar duct at the rear:

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It seems people are getting a bit excited here.

http://i.imgur.com/4EkMaXt.jpg

Sauber Melbourne 2013. hollow.

http://i.imgur.com/JCnB4R3.jpg

Looks convincing. But then.

http://i.imgur.com/NiIaNKh.jpg

It'd be far more interesting if the Ferrari DID have it, but I don't think they do.

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of course they are getting excited, it got the word "blown" in it.
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I don't know whether Ferrari copied Williams or not, after filtering back to winter testing and watching Felipe Massa's wheel coming off...could possibly explain a buildup of high pressure in the blown ring which could of made it crack/break off the wheel hub.

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