Now it's 70%? Imagine that. Yes, Webber-Hamilton was even at 65%. Don't let the door hit you, there are plenty of "nostalgia" forums where you can get excited about races you know results of or the ones you've never watched. But it's a small prize for a trip to the past where grass was greener, you were younger, had more hair and enjoyed your life more. F1 wasn't "better" though, your memory and judgement is playing tricks on you.strad wrote:Quite frankly...F1 is about to lose a lifelong fan. Between the tires and DRS and 70% driving,,,I just can't . It's screwed up,,,it's downright embarrassing. I have to be ashamed and unable to promote this as the pinnacle of motor racing.
Reprimand for Webber.Phil wrote:Is there any news on what the post race investigation turned out? can't find any news....
Thats not really true is it. RB had the run of 4 races in a row although even Singapore in there relied on a cruising Hamilton dropping out from the lead. I would propose that most people would have the McLaren as the car to be in last season. Lest we forget if we are getting into hypotheticals, had Hamilton had Buttons level of reliability he wouldve won the WDC with ease.iotar__ wrote:They and McLaren had mostly similar pace last season and not because of tyres favouring the latter (qualifying DRS advantage included). Explain that please. Funnily enough they were the most dominant on Pirellis in 2011.
It's more a matter of Red Bull trying to get their way rather than other teams desperate to prevent the tires from changing. It's the same rules for everyone, yet they still find the need to whine after three years of winning. There's no class in that team.Jonnycraig wrote:Reprimand for Webber.Phil wrote:Is there any news on what the post race investigation turned out? can't find any news....
Thats not really true is it. RB had the run of 4 races in a row although even Singapore in there relied on a cruising Hamilton dropping out from the lead. I would propose that most people would have the McLaren as the car to be in last season. Lest we forget if we are getting into hypotheticals, had Hamilton had Buttons level of reliability he wouldve won the WDC with ease.iotar__ wrote:They and McLaren had mostly similar pace last season and not because of tyres favouring the latter (qualifying DRS advantage included). Explain that please. Funnily enough they were the most dominant on Pirellis in 2011.
As for 2011, Newey stated after the season that the tyres actually reigned the RB7 in.
You personally seem to refuse to want to accept the RB9 is being restricted by the 2013 tyres. The paddock according to Ted Kravitz wholeheartedly disagrees, and 8 teams are desperate for them not to get their way on the tyres for a reason...
Pirelli have already stated that with the loadings they see on various cars Red Bull would be a good minute ahead of any other team.iotar__ wrote:No, it's a complete, utter and not very technical rubbish based on nothing.
Ahh that commentary reminds me of why I stopped watching the BBC. They are racing its what they do there is no reason to shout Ben Edwards. Stick to Brundle anydayEmerson.F wrote:So did Jenson brake Mid corner? imo Yes clearly
More likely he "lifted". Blocking the apex is a common defensive technique, it causes your competitor to get on the power later so gives you a bit of breathing room up to the next corner. If you're trying to suggest Button brake tested Perez you're most certainly underestimating the braking power of a formula 1 car.Emerson.F wrote:So did Jenson brake Mid corner? imo Yes clearly
Agreed, some people clearly haven't been watching ANY kind of motorsport for very long to think that was brake testing.munudeges wrote:No way Button 'brake tested' at that point in such a slow corner. The speed differences and margins are way too fine to be able to do that. More nonsense.
I agree. In fact, looks to me that Button was also simply much slower because he took the tighter line into the corner and Perez, coming from the outside didnt account for that.munudeges wrote:No way Button 'brake tested' at that point in such a slow corner. The speed differences and margins are way too fine to be able to do that. More nonsense.
I think your spot on there actually, looking again Perez took the racing line so was always going to be quicker out of the corner. That doesn't help if you can't find a clean way to pass.Phil wrote:I agree. In fact, looks to me that Button was also simply much slower because he took the tighter line into the corner and Perez, coming from the outside didnt account for that.munudeges wrote:No way Button 'brake tested' at that point in such a slow corner. The speed differences and margins are way too fine to be able to do that. More nonsense.