2013 Canadian GP - Montreal

[raymondu999]

the key to a good lap is good traction out of corners and a steady chassis under braking.

Translation: Rear limited

[godlameroso]

To an extent, there isn't much lateral acceleration asked from the rears, in fact in terms slip angle this track is lower than Albert park, bar the final hairpin.

[raymondu999]

To an extent, there isn't much lateral acceleration asked from the rears, in fact in terms slip angle this track is lower than Albert park, bar the final hairpin.

Yes, but the rears are still the limiting factor. Don't forget that you also need to look at slip ratio - ie longitudinal slip between the tyre and the asphalt. Lateral is not the only axis that a car's tyres can be performance-limiting.

[jamsbong]

2012 pole lap - Sebastian Vettel
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT5Y-aMLpZ0[/youtube]

Just wanna say that I do miss the unlimited DRS qualifying. I feel that drivers are more on the edge when they try to use DRS in as many places as possible to get the most out of a lap.

失败者找理由，成功者找方法
I agree...

[Jonnycraig]

Sneaky suspicion Vettel might end up on pole and going for a racy 2 stop whilst those around go for a gentle 1 stop.

[Mika1]

Another Merc win, this time Lewis Hamilton.

[SectorOne]

Mercs and Red Bulls (the best cars of 2013) will fight for pole.

The subpar cars Ferrari and Lotus will dominate the race thanks to the strangest tires in history.
First time tires penalize properly good cars.

They will also comfortably stop one time less.
And really, the only reason Vettel has two wins is because of failures from Lotus and Ferrari. That´s the only reason..
Merc has its only win thanks to no overtaking and the fact that they could for once utilize their superior cars (together with RBR) because the tires were not put under stress where they start to penalize the best cars.

Monaco Quali:
2013 - 5th place Lotus/Ferrari one full second off pace.

The same amount off pace as being a Force India or Williams in 2012.
Proper tires and both Lotus and Ferrari would have been lapped and dominated every single race because they have subpar cars but because of the tires penalizing the best cars these Pirelli´s are flattering their design departments.
They don´t even know themselves why their tires are good because it´s not their work. It´s Pirelli´s work.

[banibhusan]

Lets have a look at Alonso's performance this season:
Aus:2nd
Mal:DNF
Chi:1st
Bah:7th
Spa:1st
Mon:7th
Can:1st/2nd??

Looking at the pattern I would love to predict a strong result for Alonso. [-o<

[Dyanxx]

I love this GP, by far my favourite of the year, I expect a great race filled with overtakes, do we know if there will be 2 DRS zones? because overtaking isn't a problem here, so I hope they don't make it overkill with 2 drs zones.

[turbof1]

Mercedes will not be able to drive slowly. 2 drs zones on the easiest circuit to do overtakes makes that'll they have to push right away. It'll most of all depend on what Pirelli brings if Mercedes can stay on top. If they survive the first stint, they'll be in the hunt; their pace improves compared to the others towards the end of the race.

Obviously they will be on pole if conditions remain constant and dry. Red bull up until could only do a bid on the first row if conditions are tricky.

[Redragon]

I will be flying back from america while this is on

I was flying to Nice 1hr from Monaco while the Monaco GP was happening. I know that feeling

[Blackout]

Mercs and Red Bulls (the best cars of 2013) will fight for pole.
The subpar cars Ferrari and Lotus will dominate the race thanks to the strangest tires in history.
First time tires penalize properly good cars.

[SectorOne]

It´s the truth. First year in Formula one history where the two cars with the most downforce can´t even make it through the race because less good cars who put less energy in the tires can go for longer.
Same laptime for both still means RBR and Merc puts in more energy in the tires and it´s like Newey says,
There´s a direct link between wear and downforce. This was not the case last year where the quickest cars could run at the
pace of the second fastest machine like we saw Mclaren do alot for example.

[SamH123]

A lot of chat about Merc but there's a possibility they may even get a race ban for the testing scandal?
The bookmakers are worried because it's very rare that no odds are up at this point for the next race.

That would be a strange dynamic if they weren't there, has a team ever been banned from a race before?

My favourite thing about Canada as a UK resident is the fact it's an evening race, I mean FP1 at 3pm, that's great

[Blackout]

It´s the truth. First year in Formula one history where the two cars with the most downforce can´t even make it through the race because less good cars who put less energy in the tires can go for longer.
Same laptime for both still means RBR and Merc puts in more energy in the tires and it´s like Newey says,
There´s a direct link between wear and downforce. This was not the case last year where the quickest cars could run at the
pace of the second fastest machine like we saw Mclaren do alot for example.

Simplistic and wrong.
And take a look at Merc's recent history in F1. they never really mastered the tires and always produced bad race cars. They're getting worse every year in that area. Even in 2010 they rarely beat the Renault on race pace. they only improved their qualy pace and thus for a limited number of races. So you can't put Merc at the same level as the RBR. the latter is a very good car for sure but it seems to have weaknesses...