2013 Canadian GP - Montreal

[SectorOne]

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This might actually be a full on wet weekend. And possibly a win from Mercedes or Red Bull.

[RubberSoul]

Yeah we should wait till THIS Thursday to see how Friday MIGHT be and so on.

This is a difficult problem indeed for non-native English speakers. The word “next” can simply be taken literally to mean the next in sequence (and that’s how it was originally in English, too, I understand).

I read also that some Canadians might insist that the word next be taken literally, so “next Thursday” would mean the soonest Thursday in sequence or the very next Thursday (indeed !) or the upcoming Thursday, which is tomorrow, since it’s Wednesday today.

Apparently by just leaving the word “next” away we get the intended meaning: thus, “we need to wait until Thursday” has the same meaning as “we need to wait until this Thursday” or “we need to wait until this coming Thursday”.
However, if the sentence has past tense, then “this Thursday” refers to the most recent Thursday in the past, I understand.

Apparently there are differences even in the dictionaries:
The American Heritage Dictionary (4th ed) defines 'next' simply as
- Immediately following, as in time, order, or sequence

However, the Oxford American Dictionary has a specific definition for 'next' when used in the context of time:
- (of a day of the week) nearest (or the nearest but one) after the present : not this Wednesday, next Wednesday
The latter appears to give you a choice (the nearest but one) in what is meant by “next” in the context of time.

The Oxford English Dictionary includes examples under the definition:
- Applied (without preceding the) to days of the week, with either the current day or (in later use; orig. Sc.) the current week as the implicit point of reference. Thus (for example) next Friday may mean ‘the soonest Friday after today’ or ‘the Friday of the coming week’. The latter may be indicated contextually, e.g. by contrast with this, but it is not always clear which meaning is intended

Thus it appears that “next Thursday” is a bit ambiguous (usage varies between speakers) and you should use for instance “Thursday of next week”, in order to avoid misunderstandings (if that’s what you mean).

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Yeah we should wait till THIS Thursday to see how Friday MIGHT be and so on.

This is a difficult problem indeed for non-native English speakers. The word “next” can simply be taken literally to mean the next in sequence (and that’s how it was originally in English, too, I understand).

I read also that some Canadians might insist that the word next be taken literally, so “next Thursday” would mean the soonest Thursday in sequence or the very next Thursday (indeed !) or the upcoming Thursday, which is tomorrow, since it’s Wednesday today.

Apparently by just leaving the word “next” away we get the intended meaning: thus, “we need to wait until Thursday” has the same meaning as “we need to wait until this Thursday” or “we need to wait until this coming Thursday”.
However, if the sentence has past tense, then “this Thursday” refers to the most recent Thursday in the past, I understand.

Apparently there are differences even in the dictionaries:
The American Heritage Dictionary (4th ed) defines 'next' simply as
- Immediately following, as in time, order, or sequence

However, the Oxford American Dictionary has a specific definition for 'next' when used in the context of time:
- (of a day of the week) nearest (or the nearest but one) after the present : not this Wednesday, next Wednesday
The latter appears to give you a choice (the nearest but one) in what is meant by “next” in the context of time.

The Oxford English Dictionary includes examples under the definition:
- Applied (without preceding the) to days of the week, with either the current day or (in later use; orig. Sc.) the current week as the implicit point of reference. Thus (for example) next Friday may mean ‘the soonest Friday after today’ or ‘the Friday of the coming week’. The latter may be indicated contextually, e.g. by contrast with this, but it is not always clear which meaning is intended

Thus it appears that “next Thursday” is a bit ambiguous (usage varies between speakers) and you should use for instance “Thursday of next week”, in order to avoid misunderstandings (if that’s what you mean).

Lol. Classic. This happens so often, especially when I'm out of the country and usually it's me people are looking at like is he crazy. In the states if we were having a conversation right this very second and I said to someone lets wait & see what the weather is next Saturday, it would be well understood that I'm referring to June 15th and not this coming Saturday of FP3/Quali(8th).

But of course things differ in all languages. To avoid confusion, describing as you've posted above should avoid said confusion.


Looking like a wet weekend. Inter or Full wet all weekend but the chances of precip are rather low(under 50%) which is hit or miss IMHO. Lower temps will definitely favour some teams over others.

[Racer X]

Lol im American here the way we do things is typically THIS then NEXT no need to get all "Native Tounge" on people lol.
Do the Aussies and Kiwis do the same as you Englishmen or are we the only ones who say "This and Next" jw.

[zztopless]

Lol im American here the way we do things is typically THIS then NEXT no need to get all "Native Tounge" on people lol.
Do the Aussies and Kiwis do the same as you Englishmen or are we the only ones who say "This and Next" jw.

In Australia, assuming it's a Wednesday we would use "this Friday" to refer to this coming Friday and "next Friday" to refer to the Friday of the following week. I always assumed this was also the way it's used in North American English?

[raymondu999]

Discussing english diction in a thread to discuss a motor race. Love it!

Only on F1T...

[Pierce89]

Lol im American here the way we do things is typically THIS then NEXT no need to get all "Native Tounge" on people lol.
Do the Aussies and Kiwis do the same as you Englishmen or are we the only ones who say "This and Next" jw.

In Australia, assuming it's a Wednesday we would use "this Friday" to refer to this coming Friday and "next Friday" to refer to the Friday of the following week. I always assumed this was also the way it's used in North American English?

Correct

[Cam]

Discussing english diction in a thread to discuss a motor race. Love it!

Only on F1T...

Maybe Pirelli asked the teams to the 'next' tyre test - not 'this' one......

[Redragon]

Discussing english diction in a thread to discuss a motor race. Love it!

Only on F1T...

Maybe Pirelli asked the teams to the 'next' tyre test - not 'this' one......

+1

[Unc1e_M0nty]

Looks like every session could be wet or partly wet, teams will want to save tyres for the race which means we'll see very little running.

The wet & imtermediate tyre allowance just isn't enough for a weekend like this.

[godlameroso]

We know it's going to be a wet weekend, we've been saying it for a while now...

[Unc1e_M0nty]

Yes i know, my gripe is about the wet tyre allocation, it's just not enough, people attending P1, 2 & 3 will by lucky to see any running at all, it ruins the whole show for fans, TV & sponsors.

There should be a rule when faced with a weekend like this, extra wets to practice with which are then handed back.

[spadeflush]

Yes i know, my gripe is about the wet tyre allocation, it's just not enough, people attending P1, 2 & 3 will by lucky to see any running at all, it ruins the whole show for fans, TV & sponsors.

There should be a rule when faced with a weekend like this, extra wets to practice with which are then handed back.

+1 The FIA and Pirelli need to be more proactive in this matter. They should allocate more wet tyres for tracks which have a high probability of wet weekends eg. Malaysia, Canada, Spa etc. 6 sets of wets and 4 of inters at these tracks wouldnt hurt would it?

[FrukostScones]

the trophy for the shock winner

[turbof1]

The missing aero piece from the mclaren