Mercedes AMG F1 W04

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BorisTheBlade wrote:And they estimate an improvement of around one tenth.
Meanwhile, all the other teams have mods, and they estimate that they have found an improvement of TWO tenths. :lol: :lol:

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I doubt anybody will find 2 (structural) tenths. Remember, this not your average circuit. Claiming you found a tenth is already quite bolt in Canada.
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turbof1 wrote:I doubt anybody will find 2 (structural) tenths. Remember, this not your average circuit. Claiming you found a tenth is already quite bolt in Canada.
Sighhhh! It was a joke.

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Lewis's column on the BBC site is describing his braking issues http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/22809074. I'd be surprised if Mercedes was not working on that, if only because the way he describes it as a loss of 0.3s in the first sector of Monaco is three times the scale of the improvement estimated above. What do people think are the options that might be appropriate ? Are 'simple' measures like tyre conditioning or blanket temperatures feasible, or is it all much more complicated than that ?

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It's interesting that he's talking about not getting temperature into the tyres fast enough. So not only do they have a problem with overheating the tyres, but also a problem with taking too long to get them warm!

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gilgen wrote:
turbof1 wrote:I doubt anybody will find 2 (structural) tenths. Remember, this not your average circuit. Claiming you found a tenth is already quite bolt in Canada.
Sighhhh! It was a joke.
Yeah I am a party pooper. What ya gonna do :P .
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beelsebob wrote:It's interesting that he's talking about not getting temperature into the tyres fast enough. So not only do they have a problem with overheating the tyres, but also a problem with taking too long to get them warm!
I've mentioned this elsewhere. It seems these tires have two modes, one of them involves pushing to get them working right away, another involves gently bringing the tire up to temperature. The former unlocks the full performance of the tire but makes it degrade rather quickly, the latter is slower but far more consistent. That means that for the first lap or two there can be no wheel spin, and no sliding, and then you can get Lotus levels of longevity and pace. It would certainly explain the difference in qualifying lap times.
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Cocles wrote:http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 18459.html

Auto Motor und Sport is reporting new side pods, a modified exhaust position and a flatter engine cover. Special thanks to mercamgf1-fans.com for pointing this out.

I'm not quite seeing different side pods or any alterations to the exhaust, can anyone point this out a bit more clearly if that is indeed the case?

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Ferraripilot wrote:
Cocles wrote:http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 18459.html

Auto Motor und Sport is reporting new side pods, a modified exhaust position and a flatter engine cover. Special thanks to mercamgf1-fans.com for pointing this out.

I'm not quite seeing different side pods or any alterations to the exhaust, can anyone point this out a bit more clearly if that is indeed the case?

I noticed a slight increase in the undercut... and the exhaust seems more outboard now

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mantikos wrote:

I noticed a slight increase in the undercut... and the exhaust seems more outboard now


Seems to be a very subtle change. Aside from a very subtle undercut change, I believe the top outer portion of the sidepod directs air more directly to the exhaust exit now.

Brawn also notes they are aiming to decrease tire temps at the rear by 10 degrees. If they can do that, they will have a regular winner on their hands.

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Ferraripilot wrote:
mantikos wrote:

I noticed a slight increase in the undercut... and the exhaust seems more outboard now


Seems to be a very subtle change. Aside from a very subtle undercut change, I believe the top outer portion of the sidepod directs air more directly to the exhaust exit now.

Brawn also notes they are aiming to decrease tire temps at the rear by 10 degrees. If they can do that, they will have a regular winner on their hands.

Agreed

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Finally some good signs from the team in terms of in-season development. Last year their only "upgrade" for Canada was to remove the front wing cascades. :lol:

Let's see what they will bring for them!
Michael Schumacher: When you start out in a team, you have to get the teamwork going and then you get something back.

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Canadian GP - Friday FP - 7/6/13
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Forza wrote:Canadian GP - Friday FP - 7/6/13
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BMKeIsrCUAALZAN.jpg:large

From a team that never used testing equipment for 3 years to using it a lot this year...thank goodness...and Schumi for pushing the team maybe :)
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Is that just on Lewis' car again?