Nico Rosberg has won a thrilling British Grand Prix was that unfortunately dominated early on by three Pirelli tyre failures. Two safety car periods created great racing nonetheless, with Webber just coming short 0.7s to win this race. Fernando Alonso finished third.
Yeah right It is possible that RG lost his touch, that's what castrating blown up penalties, wife, kidbeelsebob wrote:That or DiResta and Riccardo, but yeh, that's very sane.munudeges wrote:If I were Lotus I would grab di Resta and Hulkenberg.
and 1,5 season of team treatment can do to a driver but you can't tell it now. No proper environment to judge. As for possible "sane replacements": Hulkenberg was outraced and outqualified by ancient Rubens, and di Resta by below average Sutil, Ricciardo is slightly better than the mess of a driver Vergne is , if you prefer to play that game. Yet two of them somehow "recovered" from that. BTW why the interest in Lotus suddenly, new fans everyday, media suddenly interested? Trying to squeeze their overrated drivers somewhere, I though they were all going to McLaren, Red Bull or Ferrari 
? . One: Lotus type multiple team orders are a tip of an iceberg, visible part of a policy that affects other areas. Two: from driver's percpective they really have an affect: approach, goals, expected treatment from the team in any race situation, confidence. With F1 driver performence consisting of 100 small things TO are not a small part. Also there has to be logic and result, there's none here.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear; we're talking about two different things. Yes, the BGP-001 was designed with a full workforce and Honda money. I was specifically referring to the car's 2009 in-season development, which was done with a skeleton crew.nhojekim wrote:I don't think brawnGP had a skeleton crew, brawnGP was built with full workforce with Honda money.
The stats disagree about DiResta at very least. Ricciardo has been ahead of Vergne by a wider margin for most of the season. That doesn't make me trust your assessment of Hulkenburg muchiotar__ wrote:Yeah right It is possible that RG lost his touch, that's what castrating blown up penalties, wife, kidbeelsebob wrote:That or DiResta and Riccardo, but yeh, that's very sane.munudeges wrote:If I were Lotus I would grab di Resta and Hulkenberg.
.Indeed, it's just all the Merc haters trying to latch onto some reason why the Team isn't/shouldn't be successful.Hangaku wrote:Merc has been a factory F1 team for the last 4 years, but I believe that these claims that the step forward is all down to the tire test, is forgetting how many years experience the team has in it.
Brawn alone has been working in F1 since 1991 - 22 years
Bob Bell was working at McLaren in 1982 - 31 years
Paddy Lowe (who as Brawn stated on Sky F1 the other day, is already giving input) has been in F1 since 1987 - 26 years
So just between those three, there is combined 79 years of experience - and those are just the big names, that doesn't count any of the other 1,000 members of staff. So Mercedes are a 4 year old team that are floundering, and don't you forget it
What's more those stats aren't taking into account the cock ups by the team in the last three races for DiResta. They've likely cost him a lot of points in those races.beelsebob wrote:The stats disagree about DiResta at very least. Ricciardo has been ahead of Vergne by a wider margin for most of the season. That doesn't make me trust your assessment of Hulkenburg much
With DiResta I was talking about 2011 season, or combined if you want. Ignoring that and conveniently jumping into 2013 makes ME distrust your assessment of Hulkenberg (I don't know why, it's your logic not mine). And yes it did happen Hulkenberg was out-paced and out-raced by ancient Barrichello and I don't mean even stats but general trend during the season. Not only regarding Hulkenberg.beelsebob wrote:The stats disagree about DiResta at very least. Ricciardo has been ahead of Vergne by a wider margin for most of the season. That doesn't make me trust your assessment of Hulkenburg muchiotar__ wrote:Yeah right It is possible that RG lost his touch, that's what castrating blown up penalties, wife, kidbeelsebob wrote: That or DiResta and Riccardo, but yeh, that's very sane.
Are you serious or ironic? If serious (hopefully not and I apologise if that's the case), no I don't "remember" such thing because it didn't happen. I remember a season in which two teams won 70% of the races and should have won every single race.Cam wrote:Remember last year? Random winners. You only had to fluke the setup to win. Anyone who thinks Merc did not gain an advantage from that test is kidding themselves. They did. But that's not the whole story. Merc have obviously been working to solve the issues outside of that test and its just as probable that they were close to solving them anyway. Arguably the tire test gave them answers on direction, direction they already had and needed data to prove. Merc have a very strong team, a will to win (at all costs by the test saga story) and a very quick car over one lap. It's not that hard to join the dots. Merc have done well, played the game, and got results. Isn't that what F1 is all about?
+1Cam wrote:Remember last year? Random winners. You only had to fluke the setup to win. Anyone who thinks Merc did not gain an advantage from that test is kidding themselves. They did. But that's not the whole story. Merc have obviously been working to solve the issues outside of that test and its just as probable that they were close to solving them anyway. Arguably the tire test gave them answers on direction, direction they already had and needed data to prove. Merc have a very strong team, a will to win (at all costs by the test saga story) and a very quick car over one lap. It's not that hard to join the dots. Merc have done well, played the game, and got results. Isn't that what F1 is all about?
