Lotus E21 Renault

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MarkedOne8 wrote: Also, dear iotar, this means I was absolutely right week ago when I said that DRD is worse upgrade than slim rear bodywork. Facts.
How is that a fact?
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Alan Permane ‏@AlanPermane
A very good P1 for us. Early days but car working well in the cool conditions and on the prime tyre. Should be even better this afternoon.
Germany 2013 - Friday (05.07.2013)

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wesley123 wrote:
MarkedOne8 wrote: Also, dear iotar, this means I was absolutely right week ago when I said that DRD is worse upgrade than slim rear bodywork. Facts.
How is that a fact?
I wouldn't be surprised if you are going to ask me one day what your nickname on this forum is.

In Silverstone they saw that GRO's package was better/faster than Kimi's (DRD). So, they didn't want GRO to have that package because he would be faster. They don't want GRO to be faster because Kimi is fighting for WDC. They want to push the driver number one, and that means Kimi!
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MarkedOne8 wrote:
wesley123 wrote:
MarkedOne8 wrote: Also, dear iotar, this means I was absolutely right week ago when I said that DRD is worse upgrade than slim rear bodywork. Facts.
How is that a fact?
I wouldn't be surprised if you are going to ask me one day what your nickname on this forum is.

In Silverstone they saw that GRO's package was better/faster than Kimi's (DRD). So, they didn't want GRO to have that package because he would be faster. They don't want GRO to be faster because Kimi is fighting for WDC. They want to push the driver number one, and that means Kimi!
It will be funny if GRO is again faster than Kimi this weekend.

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Hi everyone,
I'm actually no so confident about DRD, I didn't see quite a lot improvement in Silverstone, but looks like lotus's engineers got something usefull from telemetry that's why they don't want to abandon the system yet, but the Merc has tested DRD on Rosberg's car aswell in FP1 today, but they removed the system after 15 minutes... I think the Lotus is/will be the most interested team to watch this and upcoming races... I'm so curious what can they achieve with DRD...

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MarkedOne8 wrote:
wesley123 wrote:
MarkedOne8 wrote: Also, dear iotar, this means I was absolutely right week ago when I said that DRD is worse upgrade than slim rear bodywork. Facts.
How is that a fact?
I wouldn't be surprised if you are going to ask me one day what your nickname on this forum is.

In Silverstone they saw that GRO's package was better/faster than Kimi's (DRD). So, they didn't want GRO to have that package because he would be faster. They don't want GRO to be faster because Kimi is fighting for WDC. They want to push the driver number one, and that means Kimi!
So because Grosjean was faster you come to the conclusion that it has to be the DRD? Isn't it possible that Grosjean was actually faster? Or that maybe had a bad day? Or maybe it comes down to setup?

You are saying that the DRD is inferior out of a single outing, there is no proof at all of this being the case.
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You will see for FP2 that both car will have the slimline rear bodywork :lol:

The DRD need somme fine tune for the future.

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Are you forgetting that Lotus said both packages were pretty much the same in terms of speed over a lap.

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Germany 2013 - Friday (05.07.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Huntresa wrote:Are you forgetting that Lotus said both packages were pretty much the same in terms of speed over a lap.
You better look at Grosjean car this afternoon

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i have no doubt that PDRS is damn useless.

time to focus on sorting out the overall issues of the car instead of wasting time on it.

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Kansas wrote:i have no doubt that PDRS is damn useless.

time to focus on sorting out the overall issues of the car instead of wasting time on it.
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MarkedOne8 wrote:As I said, the "slim rear bodywork" upgrade package is better than "DRD" upgrade package. Kimi's WDC is primary thing for this team. It's obvious and logical move by team.
I don't know what's bugging you about that. The more important driver should and will obviously always get better package if team can't afford the equal packages for both drivers. So, it's obvious why they gave Kimi slim rear bodywork. Also, dear iotar, this means I was absolutely right week ago when I said that DRD is worse upgrade than slim rear bodywork. Facts.

Conclusion: Give Kimi as best as possible car possible.
I'm not sure what you're talking about in general and specifically here. How is this kind of post even possible here?

You have every evidence in the world that you have no clue what you're talking about, so to make it quick:
- gain from DDRS in Silverstone and Germany in numbers please [I'm not holding my breath]

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This may seem a really stupid question, but how do they close off the drd ears? Do they just simply cover them with carbon fibre pieces, its just you can never see a seam/joint.

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I think they have insert plugs.