Mercedes AMG F1 W04

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Nice info. +1.
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That's very useful information. The "skin" of the gearbox does seem flexible in terms of geometry but looks impractical for quick changes... unless they designed it to be changed without removing all the elements surrounding it.

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It might be impractical, but imo it is the only possible option. The point here is to be able to change the pick up points of the suspension arms to the structure. You cant change the gearbox as that will give you a penalty and fixing all the possible pickup points to the gearbox itself isnt an efficient option either.

So what then can you do, create an additional, replacable skin, which has different pickup points. They probably made some gains(or maybe that is a downside) on the stiffness.
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mantikos wrote:
sucof wrote:
ringo wrote:The car has dampers.

Who concluded that it doesn't?
Even Scarbs wrote somewhere that the main difference between the FRIC of Mercedes and other teams interlinked suspension is that it does not use any regular components, like dampers. But of course these are too speculation, though a good one :)

...and F1 website proved him wrong when they drew the internals with a damper this year...
Cant't find that drawing... do you have a link to it ?

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mantikos wrote:
n smikle wrote:Didn't they always have a Carbon fibre gearbox casing from the BAR days?

This ain't the same

the box was cf during BAR if I recall correctly - for Merc the box is Titanium alloy and the casing (a separate piece that shrouds the box and has pick up points) is carbon fiber like the Ferrari in 07 (or 06)
The news at the time reported it as an idea Costa brought with him from Ferrari, where they used it on the F2004.

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smlbstcbr wrote:That's very useful information. The "skin" of the gearbox does seem flexible in terms of geometry but looks impractical for quick changes... unless they designed it to be changed without removing all the elements surrounding it.

Its quicker than the 5 race wait they'd have to experience between gearbox changes otherwise...you could potentially change the pickup points at least twice over a whole weekend

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Blackout wrote:
mantikos wrote:
sucof wrote: Even Scarbs wrote somewhere that the main difference between the FRIC of Mercedes and other teams interlinked suspension is that it does not use any regular components, like dampers. But of course these are too speculation, though a good one :)

...and F1 website proved him wrong when they drew the internals with a damper this year...
Cant't find that drawing... do you have a link to it ?

It was earlier in the season, I don't have the link with me but I am sure you can dig around on the site...Scarbs also wrote about that pic (on Twitter if I am not mistaken)

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Cocles wrote:
mantikos wrote:
n smikle wrote:Didn't they always have a Carbon fibre gearbox casing from the BAR days?

This ain't the same

the box was cf during BAR if I recall correctly - for Merc the box is Titanium alloy and the casing (a separate piece that shrouds the box and has pick up points) is carbon fiber like the Ferrari in 07 (or 06)
The news at the time reported it as an idea Costa brought with him from Ferrari, where they used it on the F2004.

Thank you for correcting me on the year

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Any suspected update for Hungary???

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smlbstcbr wrote:Any suspected update for Hungary???
new floor for the new tires and maybe new exhausts

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Maybe revised brake ducts too given the new tyres / thermal deg problems

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Maybe they can manage to "crack" these tires too considering they have this extra skin on the gearbox.
It should cut down the time to unlock the tires at least.

Would be a real shame to start of so well this season and then have everything crumble mid-season.
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heimana wrote:
smlbstcbr wrote:Any suspected update for Hungary???
new floor for the new tires and maybe new exhausts
Source?

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