2014 Design

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It is more an excuse then an argument. Back in 2011 teams argumentated the same when the fia wanted to lower the chassis for 2012. The fia backed out of it, lowering the nose instead, so that the teams could keep using their chassis. At the start of winter testing most of them had a brand new chassis.

I do hope it does get reintroduced some day, in a limited form. Back in the day it was the pinnacle aero concept.
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turbof1 wrote:It is more an excuse then an argument. Back in 2011 teams argumentated the same when the fia wanted to lower the chassis for 2012. The fia backed out of it, lowering the nose instead, so that the teams could keep using their chassis. At the start of winter testing most of them had a brand new chassis.

I do hope it does get reintroduced some day, in a limited form. Back in the day it was the pinnacle aero concept.
I reckon maximum upsweep of 15 degrees for the ground effect

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WhiteBlue wrote:It is the second time that I read such a thing. There is speculation that the cars will be slower in fast corners but faster on the straits. Traffin seems to think that they will claw back 1 s worth of downforce during the season which sounds possible from a new aero config. There is the potential that the increase of power will almost compensate for the loss of downforce. In that situation a 1 s loss of performance is not so big initially that they cannot claw it back. But all those simulations can be overthrown if the tyres come out different to their expectations. Realistically next year we can expect fewer tyre stops and harder rubber. So that may increase lap time but it could be neutralized in terms of race time by less time in the pits.
I would think that the lower downforce will hit the teams in slow and medium speed corners, not so much in the high speed corners.

Corners such as Blanchimont will probably still be able to be taken flat, since the current setup gives more downforce than is necessary for that corner. Then again, they may arrive at the corner a little quicker than normal, through the reduced drag. Eau Rouge may be a touch more exciting for the drivers.

The biggest loss will be in low speed traction - lower downforce configuration and no diffuser blowing of any kind.

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F1 2014 Auto Motor und Sport:
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That picture is a 2014 engine in a 2013 chassis. Shows nothing about 2014 design.

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Holm86 wrote:That picture is a 2014 engine in a 2013 chassis. Shows nothing about 2014 design.
Yes it does because of the simplified front wing and the exhausts moved to the center of the rear coke bottle

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Nope. It shows absolutely nothing relevant to 2014, apart from the engine, which is simply dropped into the 2013 RB9

The front wing isnt simplified either, nor 2014 like, it simply misses the slot gaps drawn, the outline matches the front wing perfectly.

So just a 2013 car with a 2014 engine dropped in
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roblomas52 wrote:
Holm86 wrote:That picture is a 2014 engine in a 2013 chassis. Shows nothing about 2014 design.
Yes it does because of the simplified front wing and the exhausts moved to the center of the rear coke bottle
The front wing isn't being simplified next year. There is no ban on elements, cascades, or whatever else. It only shrinks in length by 150mm. But the car on the picture clearly shows the current allowed length.

The exhaust (yes, exhaust; only one allowed next year) is also incorrectly placed. That would be an illegal position next year. It has to be further back.
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roblomas52 wrote:
Holm86 wrote:That picture is a 2014 engine in a 2013 chassis. Shows nothing about 2014 design.
Yes it does because of the simplified front wing and the exhausts moved to the center of the rear coke bottle
Look at it. As some others have said the front wing is same width as now. And look at the Coanda slits. They are still there. Even though 2014 exhausts will exit in the center. Right above the rear crash structure. So no this picture shows nothing of relevance for 2014 design wise.

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I highly doubt Newey was pleased when he saw these Headers. ^^

But yeah, that Picture shows nothing, its simply the Pictures from the Renault 2014 Engine Presentation merged with an RB9.
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Holm86 wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:
Holm86 wrote:That picture is a 2014 engine in a 2013 chassis. Shows nothing about 2014 design.
Yes it does because of the simplified front wing and the exhausts moved to the center of the rear coke bottle
Look at it. As some others have said the front wing is same width as now. And look at the Coanda slits. They are still there. Even though 2014 exhausts will exit in the center. Right above the rear crash structure. So no this picture shows nothing of relevance for 2014 design wise.
Ok I stand corrected :oops:

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cool radiator only on one side?

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Joie de vivre wrote:cool radiator only on one side?
Thats the intercooler. Not a radiator.

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Yeah, that's going to be a bitch to position inside the car. We might see assymetric sidepods.
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turbof1 wrote:Yeah, that's going to be a bitch to position inside the car. We might see assymetric sidepods.
Ah...No. Uneven distribution of airflow over the rear wing and other surfaces would result. Maybe OK in NASCAR seeing they only turn one way. :lol:

More likely the water radiator will be in one side and the intercooler the other.
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