2013 Italian GP - Monza

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I'm praying for rain. Monza with rain always produces good races.
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rssh wrote:And finally Redbull have a good top speed for Monza 336 RB vs 338 SF. Also I think FI are going for more downforce setup (326) and they will be handy if it rains tomorrow
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/ ... _trap.html
That's strange imo and it shows they lack confidence they had in 2011. Higher gears means they think they will have to overtake. It also mean you will loose some ultimate free air pace. This race is still wide open.

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beelsebob wrote:Nice, that shot of pastor's front tyre actually did a lovely job of demonstrating why dirt and pickup has such a large effect on grip for a while. Not necessarily because of adding bumps to the nice smooth rubber, but adding patches of cold to it.
Which shot?
rssh wrote:Why would it return for Singapore isn't a short-wheelbase better for Singapore's twisty track?
It's not enough to make any difference in terms of turning circle and "agility" - F1 wheelbases are long anyways. It will have far greater effects on the car's vehicle dynamics in terms of weight transfer (as the axles are further apart) as well as aerodynamics, because there is now more distance for the car to work the air.
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rssh wrote:And finally Redbull have a good top speed for Monza 336 RB vs 338 SF. Also I think FI are going for more downforce setup (326) and they will be handy if it rains tomorrow
http://www.formula1.com/results/season/ ... _trap.html
That's strange imo and it shows they lack confidence they had in 2011. Higher gears means they think they will have to overtake. It also mean you will loose some ultimate free air pace. This race is still wide open.
The short-gear strategy works in Monza if you get pole - because poleman is generally quickest anyways, so it doesn't matter where in the lap you get the laptime. Perhaps its a sign that they believe Merc is still better in the pole position stakes.

What interests me more is their DRS-closed top speed. In 2011 and 2012, Red Bull geared their top speed for DRS-closed, ie DRS only gives them an acceleration boost, and not a top speed boost, meaning they gained less than other teams. See how qualifying in 2011 Monza was closer than it was in the race for Vettel (the McMercs were close, until both drivers botched their second runs with lockups into the second chicane)
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Juzh wrote: That's strange imo and it shows they lack confidence they had in 2011. Higher gears means they think they will have to overtake. It also mean you will loose some ultimate free air pace. This race is still wide open.
In the position they are in it makes quite some sense. They have nothing to win but a lot to lose. So not putting all eggs into one basket (slightly better free air lap pace but unable to overtake). Especially if rain threatens to spice up the race.
Moreover Monza is a track where the pole position does not automatically buy you a secure win.

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raymondu999 wrote: What interests me more is their DRS-closed top speed.
They were 4th, 3rd and 1st in 1st, 2nd and 3rd sector in speed traps if that's what you mean.

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raymondu999 wrote:
beelsebob wrote:Nice, that shot of pastor's front tyre actually did a lovely job of demonstrating why dirt and pickup has such a large effect on grip for a while. Not necessarily because of adding bumps to the nice smooth rubber, but adding patches of cold to it.
Which shot?
Unfortunately, the BBC stream hasn't been encoded yet. I'll link you once it's up.

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RBR switch their race strategy, coz this morning in FP3 Vettel did a 336km/h once they realized there is under 50% probability of having a wet race ...
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So DiResta's crash was a break failure. That's not something that will make either of the Force India drivers comfortable coming into the most break heavy race of the year.

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Lauda said on Sky that RBR has found something on the mechanical side of the car in the summer break, coz they could run with a very low setup configuration and that in his view is absolute astonishing ...
This statement is backed by Grosjean who said on Friday that RBR found something in the diffuser that is not working in a normal way but gets the job done ...
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So now time gaps are back to more normal gaps as expected, i´m guessing they will continue to shrink even more once Q3 starts.

Also what was very interesting about the thermal camera was when Pastor went into the pits, looking at the radiator intake it took one second before it started registering immense temps, same colors as a tire during full load.
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pastor outshining Bottas.
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Will Mercedes get Hamilton back out in time...?
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Well they did get him out but on his last lap he went in to the first chicane behind a slow Force India and so lost out.

Should make an interesting race...
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Shocking performance by The Boss :o
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Sutil and Hamilton under investigation?
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