2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

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Keep in mind Merc is not lotus or ferrari, who are known to be very good on the tyres.
They would have been in the same situation as Mclaren. They just don't have tyre preservation in their arsenal.
So i do support their strategy.
Had Lotus not been in the picture with Kimi, Mercedes would have looked better.

On the other hand, imagine if Romain didn't have that air problem? He's be in P2.
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What a stellar pace from Vettel ...
A third Grand chelem , after India 2011 and Japan 2012 well done kid ..
Kudos to Kimi and Alonso , that was on the limit ! but overall not an interesting race
Gutted for Webber :?
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Imido_30 wrote:
Poleman wrote:Not taking anything away from Vettel but why all the sh*t "has" to happen at Webber?...Its just frustrating the amount of luck he has.From P2 onwards a fun race to watch.
Strange why every bad thing happens to him only! No wonder he wanted to quit but it was a late call, he should've gone to another team. Petty because he is fast.
You do realize vettel's gearbox broke while leading the british gp? How about, valencia 2012? Or bahrain 2010, or australia 2010, or spain 2010, or korea 2010, or abu dhabi 2011, or brasil 2011, or italy 2012??? Forgot about those? Fricken hypocrites everywhere.

He just destroyed opposition today.

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That was a CLASS ACT racing by SEB, 2 sec a lap gain every lap , reminds me of WEB Hungry 2010 (or may more dominating than that).

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sidmiester wrote: b.s. rosberg didnt held anyone. its upto others to overtake him.. dude stop complaining...
Yup.exactly.
It is called.....Racing. He was fighting for position.

Seriously: Does anyone really expect him to draw to the side and let everybody past?
What the hell are some guys smoking on here?

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iotar__ wrote:Second worst track of the season after Abu Dhabi.
Monaco is the worst.
Unless you omitted it because it goes without saying.

Isn't passing marginally easier in Abu Dhabi than Singapore? Also less chance of safety cars which ruin the race?
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Well... today the drivers all got such a hard spanking from Vettel, that even their families and friends will not be able to sit for a week.

Atleast the end was fun. Webber is always sure to bring some fireworks.
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what a show, credit must go to the organizer of Singapore GP.

Vettel and RB9 obviously is untouchable and its most likely to remain the same for the next few races. Perhaps Vettel could be crowned WDC at India. Post race atmosphere between Horner, Alonso, Kimi and Vettel was fantastic. Very different from what we saw at Monza for sure.

Did Vettel got booed at podium celebration or were the fans just chanting Fernando?

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Shrieker wrote:It somewhat made sense to keep Hamilton out in the SC period (in the hopes that he might keep track position to the end) since he was already around 6th-7th, but probably he would've ended up like the McLarens did.

On the other hand, Merc. screwed Nico royally by not taking him in under SC. He could've done what Alonso did and not stop again, worst case scenario he would've been overtaken by Alonso and finish 3rd ahead of Raikkonen. Merc. shot themselves in the foot there.
I agree. Rosberg should have stopped. IIRC Hamilton had pitted on lap 18 and Rosberg on lap 15. Hamilton did the right thing. Nico just ruined the race a bit for us fans. McLaren (and Hulk?) also ruined the race a bit for Webber, Rosberg and Hamilton and gifted P3 to Raikonnen and maybe even Alonso would have been caught.
The SC ruined the race for me, I prefer clean races.

BTW did you see when they left the podium one of the girls tried to touch Alonso or somebody at the exit, anybody got video of this? :mrgreen:

I want to see video of Hamilton pushed outside the track by Massa and getting told to give position (probably there is audio of team FIARARI complaining we didn't get to hear) and also why Hulk(?) got one too (they didn't show this even once).

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Juzh wrote:
Imido_30 wrote:
Poleman wrote:Not taking anything away from Vettel but why all the sh*t "has" to happen at Webber?...Its just frustrating the amount of luck he has.From P2 onwards a fun race to watch.
Strange why every bad thing happens to him only! No wonder he wanted to quit but it was a late call, he should've gone to another team. Petty because he is fast.
You do realize vettel's gearbox broke while leading the british gp? How about, valencia 2012? Or bahrain 2010, or australia 2010, or spain 2010, or korea 2010, or abu dhabi 2011, or brasil 2011, or italy 2012??? Forgot about those? Fricken hypocrites everywhere.

He just destroyed opposition today.
Yeah right Juzh...You counted like what, 8 DNF's in 5 years? Now do me a favor and count Webber's failures. Thanks.

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Poleman wrote:Yeah right Juzh...You counted like what, 8 DNF's in 5 years? Now do me a favor and count Webber's failures. Thanks.
Hmm, not to be nitpicking, but if i do my math based on the events @Juzh mentioned I arrive at 9 DNFs in 4 years ?!

Care to elaborate on your way of calculating?

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komninosm wrote: I want to see video of Hamilton pushed outside the track by Massa and getting told to give position (probably there is audio of team FIARARI complaining we didn't get to hear) and also why Hulk(?) got one too (they didn't show this even once).
I think Hamilton being told to give back position wasn't entirely fair because he got pushed wide by Massa. Massa should've provided space for Hamilton to live as per the rules. Hamilton was squeezed out of track, i don't quite see why he has to slow and give up his inside line advantage for the next corner just because he went outside the track limits. He went there because he was squeezed wide in the first place.

Regarding Nico (Hulk) and Perez, I think it was more clear cut. Perez dived to the inside, and while both drivers were struggling for grip (and being respectful to each other) there was the slightest of contacts which pushed Nico wide and out of the track. Hamilton vs. Massa is an open argument but Hulk was hard done, he shouldn't have been asked to give the place back since it was the contact that pushed him out of the track.

A few words about Red Bull and Vettel. It's quite obvious they've found something with their car - as they always do going into the 2nd half of the season. Maybe it's the surplus downforce they were talking about at the start of the season, that could be brought back thanks to the 2012 construction tyres. Kudos to them. I think when the EBD era is well and truly over at the start of next season, we may see Vettel struggle a bit as he did in 2012.
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Poleman wrote: Yeah right Juzh...You counted like what, 8 DNF's in 5 years? Now do me a favor and count Webber's failures. Thanks.
Webber had 1 (!!!) mechanical dnf since 2010 which was Usa 2012. All others such as aus 11, korea 10, monza 11, china 13 & maybe more were all driver errors. How about that?

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DNF doesn't give a good picture. You should look at mechanical issues. Webber undoubtedly has more.
I don't see a consiracy however. He simply has the worst set of mechanics and Vettel has the more error free ones.
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henra wrote:
Poleman wrote:Yeah right Juzh...You counted like what, 8 DNF's in 5 years? Now do me a favor and count Webber's failures. Thanks.
Hmm, not to be nitpicking, but if i do my math based on the events @Juzh mentioned I arrive at 9 DNFs in 4 years ?!

Care to elaborate on your way of calculating?

Not all I listed were DNF's, like bahrain 2010 for example but still cost him dearly.