Silly Season 2013/14

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And then there's the America's Cup angle:

"British technical guru admits he is restless in Formula One and might be prepared to transfer his talents to yacht racing"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motors ... -role.html
Per ardua ad astra

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Adrian made that comment when he wanted to leave McLaren, Mc Laren wouldnt allow him to take on work on the AC boats. and that is one reason why Newey decided to leave. His interest was in the monohulls, and I have not heard him express any interest in the design of the multihulls. I very much doubt that he currently has any interest in leaving RBR for AC.

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lio007 wrote:https://twitter.com/F1Agent/status/418501354320297985

Any thoughts or further information about that?
For me it is hard to believe, because I thought, at least, Sebastian Vettel extended his contract until the end of 2015!?
Exactly.
Harsha wrote:I think in 2012 December time Both Horner and Newey extended their contracts and same did by SV.
So i really dont think its true unless We get the official Confirmation
This is also what I heard. Then the following tweet says "Could both be off to Ferrari in 2015" :P

So the guy made a Twitter account a few days ago, claiming "You will hear it here first. I have my contacts inside F1 and will know all the driver changes and news first", "On this account I will be telling you which rumours are true and which are false. I have contacts inside F1 who tell me the changes in the driver market and the developments in the teams" Sort of what EJ has been doing but even he wouldn't claim such.

The first news from the account was about Kamui-Caterham which had been floating for more than a week already. Another one, "BREAKING: Paul Di Resta is out of F1. It is understood that he will try and make his way back into DTM" Breaking, really? I don't see any fresh, let alone trustworthy, stuff there. He(she) will need to buy some Twitter followers sooner or later to sound more believable at the very least!

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With the Koba thing he´s sort of kept the door open.

"Caterham have contacted Kamui Kobayashi over a drive for next season. More to follow in the coming days"

"There have now been actual discussions between Kobayashi and the caterham team. They happened sometime last week"

"Talks between Kobayashi and caterham are in advanced stages. A contract is being discussed"

And the door open:

"No real speculation on the marussia seat is there.. Thats an obvious one.. Caterham should be VDG and Kamui/Heikki"
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My point was that none of them are original or breaking news to take him(her) seriously yet. Basically any F1 fans who spend enough time on Twitter or on a couple of online forums could have written them. One can argue it's because the account was created just a few days ago or it's how the drivers market is for the moment though a claim like 'I will know all the driver changes and news first.' is simply ridiculous. Or is one of the 'contacts inside F1' BE?!?

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SectorOne wrote:With the Koba thing he´s sort of kept the door open.

"Caterham have contacted Kamui Kobayashi over a drive for next season. More to follow in the coming days"

"There have now been actual discussions between Kobayashi and the caterham team. They happened sometime last week"

"Talks between Kobayashi and caterham are in advanced stages. A contract is being discussed"

And the door open:

"No real speculation on the marussia seat is there.. Thats an obvious one.. Caterham should be VDG and Kamui/Heikki"
I think Kamui should get a drive with Caterham in 2014 and then join Mclaren Honda in 2015.

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I very much doubt that he currently has any interest in leaving RBR for AC.
Herr Mateschitz made him a well-off man - Larry Ellison could make him a wealthy one.
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Gridlock wrote:
I very much doubt that he currently has any interest in leaving RBR for AC.
Herr Mateschitz made him a well-off man - Larry Ellison could make him a wealthy one.
With a rumoured £6m per year salary at Red Bull, Newey is already a very wealthy man.

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CHT wrote:
SectorOne wrote:With the Koba thing he´s sort of kept the door open.

"Caterham have contacted Kamui Kobayashi over a drive for next season. More to follow in the coming days"

"There have now been actual discussions between Kobayashi and the caterham team. They happened sometime last week"

"Talks between Kobayashi and caterham are in advanced stages. A contract is being discussed"

And the door open:

"No real speculation on the marussia seat is there.. Thats an obvious one.. Caterham should be VDG and Kamui/Heikki"
I think Kamui should get a drive with Caterham in 2014 and then join Mclaren Honda in 2015.
Kamui was impressive for half a season in 2009 and mediocre for the rest of his time in F1, I think Mclaren have hired enough mediocre drivers in the last 5 years.

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Kobayashi is quite handy over one lap and provides some brilliant entertainment.
He also finished only 6 points behind a guy that was deemed so impressive that he got a Mclaren contract.
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Cold Fussion wrote:
CHT wrote:
SectorOne wrote:With the Koba thing he´s sort of kept the door open.

"Caterham have contacted Kamui Kobayashi over a drive for next season. More to follow in the coming days"

"There have now been actual discussions between Kobayashi and the caterham team. They happened sometime last week"

"Talks between Kobayashi and caterham are in advanced stages. A contract is being discussed"

And the door open:

"No real speculation on the marussia seat is there.. Thats an obvious one.. Caterham should be VDG and Kamui/Heikki"
I think Kamui should get a drive with Caterham in 2014 and then join Mclaren Honda in 2015.
Kamui was impressive for half a season in 2009 and mediocre for the rest of his time in F1, I think Mclaren have hired enough mediocre drivers in the last 5 years.
I wont call any driver that could pull an overtaking stun on Alonso be mediocre. Reason for Mclaren to sign Kamui will be for commercial reason because of Honda.

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SectorOne wrote:Kobayashi is quite handy over one lap and provides some brilliant entertainment.
He also finished only 6 points behind a guy that was deemed so impressive that he got a Mclaren contract.
Caterham already have a one lap specialist in Van Der Garde (presuming he stays alongside an 'experienced' paid driver) and Kobayashi's not going to provide much excitement, if as seems likely they are still trundling around at the back.

On the other hand there is Alguersuari who has been on the Caterham sim recently, knows the 2013 & 14 tyres and whose best results in F1 came when put on long 1 stop strategies.

The question then of course is do Caterham need two qualifying specialists or a consistent driver capable of pulling off alternate strategies.

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CHT wrote: I wont call any driver that could pull an overtaking stun on Alonso be mediocre. Reason for Mclaren to sign Kamui will be for commercial reason because of Honda.
He was on massively newer tyres, It's hard to call an overtake under such conditions stunning.
SectorOne wrote:Kobayashi is quite handy over one lap and provides some brilliant entertainment.
He also finished only 6 points behind a guy that was deemed so impressive that he got a Mclaren contract.
The Mclaren signing of Perez was an eyebrow raiser for everyone, few really believed Perez really belonged in the Mclaren.

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Cold Fussion wrote:The Mclaren signing of Perez was an eyebrow raiser for everyone, few really believed Perez really belonged in the Mclaren.
Not really, Perez stood out among the newer drivers by quite some margin.
Hulkenberg showed promise but not anywhere near what Perez did. Brazil just put a lid on that one as well.

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I understand Mclaren wanting a driver that instantly is faster/better then Button but giving a new driver a dog then toss him out because you f´d up with some handshaking with another team is just ridiculous when you think about it.
That´s really the only reason he´s out from Mclaren, Martin f´d up.
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SectorOne wrote:
Cold Fussion wrote:The Mclaren signing of Perez was an eyebrow raiser for everyone, few really believed Perez really belonged in the Mclaren.
Not really, Perez stood out among the newer drivers by quite some margin.
Hulkenberg showed promise but not anywhere near what Perez did. Brazil just put a lid on that one as well.

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I understand Mclaren wanting a driver that instantly is faster/better then Button but giving a new driver a dog then toss him out because you f´d up with some handshaking with another team is just ridiculous when you think about it.
That´s really the only reason he´s out from Mclaren, Martin f´d up.
exactly. somehow there's a deal to give magnussen a seat for 2014 and somehow they have to get him a seat. the deal with marussia didn't work somehow, and i guess caterham was out of the picture aswell. leaving them with no option but to give him the MCL seat. which is completely rediculous indeed and a big big big fail in management.
The weirdest part is; if they managed to get Perez a seat at force india, then why didn't they manage to put magnussen there?
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