Schumacher ski accident, coma and recovery

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kaller wrote:.....the fact that he did not use it as an excuse is remarkable and shows that he is probably a greater person than I've always assumed he is......
+2, that was what i thought. I never read about possible brain damage after the '09 accident, maybe i've missed it tho.
But even if they 'fixed' the arteria, the simple fact is they said he suffered brain damage before, on the part of the brain
that 'controls' motoric abilities.
I linked that immediately to some of his crashes from 2010-2012, like planting the car in the rear of vergne, having contact with senna. I've always found these 'collisions' weird becuase he never seemed to have these kind of contacts in his 'first f1 career'. They almost showed a bit rookie/amateuristic, which simply doesn't fit Schumacher's profile. But if his motoric abilities have been compromised just minutely due to the 09 accident, it would be a good explenation.
maybe that's why Schumi called it his 'second' career in F1, and why Montzemolo called him 'a different schumacher'.
I dunno, perhaps i'm fetching too far.
I think it's interesting though, and indeed - since he never ever seemed to publically talk about this, and never used it as
an excuse, i think he is a bit bigger person i thought he was.


Come on Schumi, you need to pose this pose at the hospital soon!

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I am all in favor of letting those who ride, decide. Just as long as they understand that not one PENNY of public funds will be expended to save their sorry asses when they get injured
Now that IS funny. :lol:
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Of course, there are always people like these: https://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Mich ... 3397807202

It's disgusting.

For those who don't have Facebook, a screenshot of the page follows. I have already reported it as false and offending, but Facebook told me it's OK and they are not going to remove it? Maybe I'm missing something in the German content of the page:

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I think people are too quick to be offended by stuff they see on the internet.

When I see something like that Facebook page I think, wanker and move on. If we are all to become super sensitive about crap that's posted online we'll end up with even more people jailed for bad taste jokes like as already happened in the UK. If we want to completely destroy free speech, if it isn't already thanks to NSA/GCHQ snooping, let's report everything that offends.

The only sources of information regarding MSC that can be relied upon are from the hospital and MSC's people.

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Sabine Kehm just released a statement that any information regarding his health status that is not issued by the treating medics is not valid.
I think would be a good standard to bear in mind before posting to this thread.
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I think it's common sense for people to take into consideration only the informations coming from Sabine or the doctors/hospital.
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Shakeman wrote:I think people are too quick to be offended by stuff they see on the internet.

When I see something like that Facebook page I think, wanker and move on. If we are all to become super sensitive about crap that's posted online we'll end up with even more people jailed for bad taste jokes like as already happened in the UK. If we want to completely destroy free speech, if it isn't already thanks to NSA/GCHQ snooping, let's report everything that offends.

The only sources of information regarding MSC that can be relied upon are from the hospital and MSC's people.
I'm not offended, I just think it's plain wrong to allow something like that, and there's one prime reason for that - death.
This is not something to let go or joke about. Hence, I think it has to be pursuit relentlessly. Facebook thinks otherwise. I did what I could and I continue to find it inappropriate.

On a related note, as an ex-cyber cop I've seen lots of stuff and I can hardly be surprised by anything, but when it comes to death and life, I have no doubts. And I'm not even the biggest fan of MSC, but I'm human before everything.

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I just think it's plain wrong to allow something like that, and there's one prime reason for that - death. This is not something to let go or joke about.
With all due respect, death is a riotously funny subject. It is how we know that God has a sense of humor and that all those who oppressed us in our lifetime will have their own encounter with the Grim Reaper just as sure as the sun rises in the East. What could be funnier than that? For many, humor is how we deal with the most serious and saddening events life has to throw at us.

For proof of my thesis, I offer this segment from the Mary Tyler Moore show that focuses on the funeral for Chuckles The Clown, who dressed up as a giant peanut for a parade and was "shucked" by a rogue elephant.

Our ability to laugh at death is what makes us human and proves we are not half as civilized as we pretend to be.

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Kiril Varbanov wrote:Of course, there are always people like these: https://www.facebook.com/pages/RIP-Mich ... 3397807202

It's disgusting.

For those who don't have Facebook, a screenshot of the page follows. I have already reported it as false and offending, but Facebook told me it's OK and they are not going to remove it? Maybe I'm missing something in the German content of the page:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BdKJmd_CMAAx3ii.png:large
The reason Facebook won't remove it is because of freedom of speech. They're free to say what ever they like... They're idiots, but they're still free to say it.

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MOWOG wrote:It is how we believe that God has a sense of humor and that all those who oppressed us in our lifetime will have their own encounter with the Grim Reaper just as sure as the sun rises in the East.
Fixed it for you, don´t mix belief with true knowledge.
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SectorOne wrote:
MOWOG wrote:It is how some believe that God has a sense of humor and that all those who oppressed us in our lifetime will have their own encounter with the Grim Reaper just as sure as the sun rises in the East.
Fixed it for you, don´t mix belief with true knowledge.
Fixed the fix. :lol:

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Cold Fussion wrote:He's riding trials, it's only a matter of time that you fall off and bang your head on something, it's also quite silly to suggest he shouldn't wear a helmet when he has all those head Injurys from falling off.
I assume you meant 'trails' - I wouldn't survive a trials course. :lol: Actually, I've only had a few small spills as an adult. My youth, however, was marked by a distinct inability to measure risk.

My middle age, on the other hand, seems to be marked by my body's inability to repair itself at any acceptable rate; so I'll wear a helmet. For me, it's more about turning borderline injuries into minor, hopefully nonexistent ones. I'd prefer not to think about the major ones, though it's good to remind yourself every so often that they're out there waiting to happen.

Strad, I'll send you my old helmet if you like. :P
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WillerZ wrote:
Pup wrote:Before reading that study, I thought that standard bike helmets were designed for that, but it seems they aren't. So, I'll get a better one - probably this one... http://www.pocsports.com/en/product/122 ... untry-mips
I was going to recommend you look at POC: the helmet designer's helmet designer. The one you link is a good choice for the trails in the colder three seasons; I would expect to find it too hot if you're doing 20+ on the road in the summer.

Good news is that POC are readying a road program (Ryder Hesjedal was wearing their specs at the TdF last year). Velonews may have had pics of the prototype road helmet, or I saw it somewhere else, in any case it looks quite like the Trabec.
I almost bought a trabec this summer but got a giro feature instead. Not as good, but at least has more coverage than the typical mushroom cap. The receptor will definitely be too hot for summer, but I ski now too, so it makes sense. The only regret is having bought a Scott ski helmet a few months ago, but at least I got one trip out of it, and since I got it on a Clymb sale I think I'm only out $50 or so.

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Pup wrote:
WillerZ wrote:
Pup wrote:Before reading that study, I thought that standard bike helmets were designed for that, but it seems they aren't. So, I'll get a better one - probably this one... http://www.pocsports.com/en/product/122 ... untry-mips
I was going to recommend you look at POC: the helmet designer's helmet designer. The one you link is a good choice for the trails in the colder three seasons; I would expect to find it too hot if you're doing 20+ on the road in the summer.

Good news is that POC are readying a road program (Ryder Hesjedal was wearing their specs at the TdF last year). Velonews may have had pics of the prototype road helmet, or I saw it somewhere else, in any case it looks quite like the Trabec.
I almost bought a trabec this summer but got a giro feature instead. Not as good, but at least has more coverage than the typical mushroom cap. The receptor will definitely be too hot for summer, but I ski now too, so it makes sense. The only regret is having bought a Scott ski helmet a few months ago, but at least I got one trip out of it, and since I got it on a Clymb sale I think I'm only out $50 or so.
I've just bought POC Receptor backcountry for skiing, one week before schumacher's crash, and I've said I will not spare my money on my head. Well I'm not extreme skier (freerider..) but you never know what can happen, anyway the helmet is good, well designed, it's light and ventilated and looks like it's very safe too (ofc it's swedish). I would recommend it to everyone who wants good helmet for a good price.

Sorry for offtopic, I hope schumi will get well soon

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just remember a helmet is there to protect. it's not like it'll take away the dangers. it's not some magic device like hey; let's just slam headfirst into a concrete wall because of the helmet it's fine.

offcourse quality differs. however, i remember well having a motocross accident when i was much younger - after making a steering error i headed into a couple of trees and hit a tree sideways. i woke up at the hospital with a minor concussion and a broken leg and lost hearing somehow in the left ear possibly due to the pressure blowing my ear drum. the helmet i head was the cheapest i could get my hands on. it sounds stupid, yes, but if it's offered, it'll be bought. and it did protect me.

a year later, a motocross driver wearing a helmet which was a whopping 6 times more expensive (not kidding) then mine, crashed and hit the floor cracking somehow his skull. his helmet was still intact, but somehow it deformed badly and twisted his skull, cracking it. it resulted in him living in a wheelchair for years and a loss of several brain functions untill a couple of years later something caused a brain artery to snap leading to his death.

moral of the story: you can improve head protection in the quality of the material you buy, but that doesn't mean it'll save you when a cheaper less quality product wouldnt.

it's said before; luck and disfortune are key elements in life and death.
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