Mercedes AMG F1 W05

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clipsy1H wrote:the shape of the nose looks like W01. i think sidepods are to small. TBH i don't know how those cars can eliminate the heat from engine !!
It's no surprise that the sidepods are smaller on the works teams.
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dren wrote:
clipsy1H wrote:the shape of the nose looks like W01. i think sidepods are to small. TBH i don't know how those cars can eliminate the heat from engine !!
It's no surprise that the sidepods are smaller on the works teams.
Don't know how 1.6 turbo and 2 electronic systems will work during 1h of race but i can't wait to see that (especially Bahrain )

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The black swoosh accent under the Petronas logo on the left sidepod makes it look like the pod curves funky, but I think it is just an illusion. There is still a nice undercut there.
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turbof1 wrote:On the nose failure: if only the pylons gave way, then it's just an issue of reinforcing them. Not difficult to do, and can probably be done overnight.
It's getting problematic when it's the nose that failed. That means reinforcing it and again crashtesting it.
Not sure it is that simple. With the way we have front wing flexing these days - simply reinforcing something doesn't seem like a viable option any more, especially with bits that small.

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So the Brackley Guys are working on a new Front Wing with reinforced Pylons. AMuS says the Part will be in Jerez Wednesday 6am.
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turbof1 wrote:If those are the only cooling outlets, then surely a huge load of heat has to exit through those. Looks perfect for sealing the diffuser.
No way that the air that goes through the radiator is gonna be faster, more "energized", than the air going around the pods.
It's hot air alright, but it's very slow moving hot air, what Mercedes (and everyone else) is trying to do is getting it out of the way.

There is no easy substitute to the exhaust flow.

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Shakeman wrote:How do you account for the sound of the car going over the gravel and into the barrier if the boom was the crash?
the boom was when hamilton ran over the front wing then needing to brake hard then sliding the gravel into the wall for another smash
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ben_watkins wrote:The front wing mounts (walrus like) look tiny to me. Any small nudge and the front wing will be off!
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Time for the annual reminder that the car threads are for examining the actual features of the car. If the comment doesn’t relate to an observation of an actual detail on the car then it doesn’t belong in this thread.

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Nose is a little bit similar like Ferrari f14T

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Yes they are, however the Ferrari one looks more airobeneficial. I mean the shape is more rounded and little bit slimmer.
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From the image of the wing being transported back in the car, it looks like it may have been a failure of the clever vanity panel usage in the nose? If I'm keeping up correctly, the general opinion is that Mercedes are using a twin tusk setup like the Lotus but covering it with some clever use of the vanity panel in the front wing pillars. The image seems to show the failure wasn't in the mountings between the wing and pillars - it was between the pillars and nose. Could that be to do with the vanity panel at all?

Armchair mechanic here.

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Just to make sure everybody is on the same page:

The middle of the nose actually is too high. If this were to be a normal nosecone, it would be illegal.

However, Mercedes used the same solution as Lotus: The lotus "tusks" are the same as Mercedes' "Pylons"", in other words, except for a small area that connects to the front wing neutral section, the pylons are infact nose/crash structure. One pylon 51mm shorter then the other. This way they avoid the single section rule. Mercedes however made smart use of the vanity panel to make the pylons identical, which is essential for the airflow structures coming off the pylons to be symmetrical on both sides

I made a better drawing of it:
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Pink is the crash structure/nose, with grey being the pylons connecting the crash structure to the FW main plane, and orange being the vanity panel. I'm not 100% sure how mercedes exactly integrated the vanity panel. It could be completely like in the drawing, but it could also be the vanity stretches from the pylon completely over the middle of the tip of the nose.

This is a rather conservative approach to the idea. I expect more crash area between the pylons to be removed throughout the season.
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Good thing he was unharmed.