Ferrari F14T

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I'd say a mounting Bracket for Aero Sensors.
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Holder for the measuring device, you can see the rod going to the right. Here you have a better view

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GA never fails to criticize Ferrari for something, without thinking twice about it. He immediately comes to the conclusion that Ferrari's nose is wrong and that they haven't looked into the 'grey areas'. Talk about narrow minded, inflexible point of views and bias.

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Winter Testing 2014 - Session 1, Day 3 (30.01.2014)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Mr.G wrote:
Holder for the measuring device, you can see the rod going to the right. Here you have a better view

http://f1tcdn.net/gallery/var/resizes/2 ... 30ja07.jpg
Yep, clear now, thanks to all that replied!

Also, agreed that Anderson is always 'confused' by the things Ferrari do; perhaps he simply does not understand their aero philosophy? He seems to be the only technical expert I've seen so far who is so perplexed by the F14 T.

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andrewf1 wrote:GA never fails to criticize Ferrari for something, without thinking twice about it. He immediately comes to the conclusion that Ferrari's nose is wrong and that they haven't looked into the 'grey areas'. Talk about narrow minded, inflexible point of views and bias.
Completely agree. and this too:

"It will be difficult for [James Allison] to stamp his authority on the 2014 car... but if things dont go well at Ferrari I can see an implosion."

Negative much? Besides, there is almost always a reshuffle in a team in formula 1 teams when "things don't go well". Unnecessary to use the word implosion. He really gives away his subjectivity.

Where is Martin Whitmarsh from his beloved McLaren after last seasons disastrous results? hmm? it happens. Even in teams with like mclaren who had no serious shakeups.

I really dont even think he is as informative as Scarbs for example. Reason being GA gives his opinion. Scarbs listens to different pitlane peoples' opinions and gives you the general consensus.

And Scarbs maintains objectivity.

Anyway, Rant over.

I really dont think the nose is as contradictory as everyone is saying. the tub is still very high, and we saw from the flovis, it goes round the first part of the nose, not up and over.
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Winter Testing 2014 - Session 1, Day 3 (30.01.2014)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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MarkedOne8 wrote:The Raikkonen's spin, as can be seen on the video above, is not oversteer related. Oversteering can't be that severe. To me, it looks like classic brake bias settings mistake. Too much on the front. If it's not bias, it's differential settings or just engine settings. Not aerodynamics related.
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do they need some tuning regarding brake-by-wire?
Possible too.
There's even something easier: lack of temperature.

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Postmoe wrote:There's even something easier: lack of temperature.
I would rule that out because rear tires get up to temperature easier and faster than front ones. Second, the car can't spin under braking because lacking heat in tires.
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MarkedOne8 wrote:
Postmoe wrote:There's even something easier: lack of temperature.
I would rule that out because rear tires get up to temperature easier and faster than front ones. Second, the car can't spin under braking because lacking heat in tires.
I was thinking about the breaks. We don't know about the last lap, and during the winter F1 cars really struggle keeping functioning temperatures. That can lead to lack of balance if you sum the different factors involved.

Or... Ferrari does not have a simulator where to tune the car.

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Yes, brake temperatures seem far more possible, but my favorite is brake-by-wire wrong settings or wrong brake bias settings.
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MarkedOne8 wrote:Yes, brake temperatures seem far more possible, but my favorite is brake-by-wire wrong settings or wrong brake bias settings.

Of course, and it's probably the central factor. But they have a very deep knowledge around settings to make balance mistakes without other elements interfering.

I just wanted to go around Occam's razor a little bit.

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Close up on the diffuser
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Re: Raikkonen spinning, I would have thought that would be too much rear bias, not too much toward the front?

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Vettel Maggot wrote:Re: Raikkonen spinning, I would have thought that would be too much rear bias, not too much toward the front?
No, it's opposite.
Fernando Alonso is the best pay-to-drive driver in F1 with the biggest amount of money behind him.
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