Red Bull RB10 Renault

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I think with "Heat Sources" they mean Headers.....soo its a Red Bull Problem.

Newey and Horner are already on their Way back to Milton Keynes according to AMuS.
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Exactly, rather, I think what he meant was that 'heat sources' are packaged too close to Battery and ERS elements causing these to suffer quick overheating.
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Thunders wrote:I think with "Heat Sources" they mean Headers.....soo its a Red Bull Problem.

Newey and Horner are already on their Way back to Milton Keynes according to AMuS.
I would hope so. This is not going to be a simple problem to fix. If the car could only make a few laps around a chilly Jerez before overheating, I'd hate to see it at Bahrain. :wtf:

All of that said, Newey and packaging problems does not surprise me in the least.

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So is this gonna be the first fragile Red Bull car Newey will produce ? I mean its been a while since we saw his Mclarens just break apart of their own free will. :P

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Huntresa wrote:So is this gonna be the first highly flammable Red Bull car Newey will produce ? I mean its been a while since we saw his Mclarens just break apart of their own free will. :P


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2011 car had a bunch of KERS issues, it's just that they were mainly on Webber's car; and let's not forget the failures at the start of 2010.

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f1316 wrote:2011 car had a bunch of KERS issues, it's just that they were mainly on Webber's car; and let's not forget the failures at the start of 2010.
Yeah i know but i thought proper unreliable cars that made ppl lose championships like a few Mclarens he built.

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Does anyone of you know what the heat development is like in such a car? Is it gradually increasing to a maximum temp or is it immediately at max temp due to the preheating of all the engine components?

Even with Newey going for more extreme solutions, it's almost impossible that the car overheats in a single installation lap.....if it does, then Renault seem to have massively more cooling need than any of the other engine units.

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Small hole in the sidepod. Might have been cut out.

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it looks burned doesn't it? right in front of the rear wheel

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RZS10 wrote:it looks burned doesn't it? right in front of the rear wheel
Agreed....but the white coloration....not sure if it's steam or burned paint?
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Mandrake wrote:Does anyone of you know what the heat development is like in such a car? Is it gradually increasing to a maximum temp or is it immediately at max temp due to the preheating of all the engine components?

Even with Newey going for more extreme solutions, it's almost impossible that the car overheats in a single installation lap.....if it does, then Renault seem to have massively more cooling need than any of the other engine units.
The engines typically have to be pre-heated before they can even be started. Once it's running I would imagine it gets up to "operating temperature" pretty quickly. The problem has been suggested to be the ERS and batteries being too close to heat sources, and immediately over heating.

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richard_leeds wrote:
As far as I am aware the RB10 does not have a red flag, it would fail the rules about secure bodywork!
What? :shock: Meaning they can´t paint one in the livery, as long it is symmetric to de longitdinal axis of the car? :? Men, that is not regulation, that's tyrany! :!: But you may tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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f1316 wrote:2011 car had a bunch of KERS issues, it's just that they were mainly on Webber's car
Just on webber's car? I don't think so:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/groups/f1/fo ... e=1&num=15

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Owen.C93 wrote:Small hole in the sidepod. Might have been cut out.

http://www.formula1.com/wi/enlarge/sutt ... 30ja10.jpg
Doesn't want to get too close, does he!