Ferrari F14T

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muelte wrote:Not exactly an idea from RedBull (or a signal of cooling problems) It was there last year as well:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CxCJm8M2fUU/U ... ustom).jpg
Perhaps something Red Bull should add tho :P

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muelte wrote:Not exactly an idea from RedBull (or a signal of cooling problems) It was there last year as well:

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He wasn't talking about the cooling vents, he was talking about the inward slant of the sidepods in the area of those advertisements.

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scarbs wrote:Other Tech directors were fairly sure that Ferrari running water-to-air intercoolers and that Ferrari werent alone in that respect.
Not only the intercooler but also the engine radiator has the same solution and that`s the reason why Ferrari's new cooling system is more efficient, thus they could tighten up their sidepods ...

But there is a catch: if you look back in 2012 at Mercedes W02 (if I`m not wrong) they also have had a slick side-pods shape by adopting a double decked radiator solution (yeah just air-to-air) from that US company and they`ve got a lot of overheating problems, isn`t it?
And another issue of this water-to-air solution is that you end up with more weight ...
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atanatizante wrote:
scarbs wrote:Other Tech directors were fairly sure that Ferrari running water-to-air intercoolers and that Ferrari werent alone in that respect.
Not only the intercooler but also the engine radiator has the same solution and that`s the reason why Ferrari's new cooling system is more efficient, thus they could tighten up their sidepods ...

But there is a catch: if you look back in 2012 at Mercedes W02 (if I`m not wrong) they also have had a slick side-pods shape by adopting a double decked radiator solution (yeah just air-to-air) from that US company and they`ve got a lot of overheating problems, isn`t it?
And another issue of this water-to-air solution is that you end up with more weight ...
Aren't engine radiators water/air? Normally?
The more weight or not, will depend upon packaging and length of pipes as well as thermal efficiency of the intercooler

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
muelte wrote:Not exactly an idea from RedBull (or a signal of cooling problems) It was there last year as well:

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He wasn't talking about the cooling vents, he was talking about the inward slant of the sidepods in the area of those advertisements.
My bad, I'm not native english speaker and didn't undestand properly... So it is the sidepod shape what he is talking about, right?

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I noticed that the geometry of the suspension of the two cars is almost the same
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They both have the shrouded driveshaft, so it isn't suprising because it requires a very specific geometry.
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muelte wrote:
My bad, I'm not native english speaker and didn't undestand properly... So it is the sidepod shape what he is talking about, right?
No worries mate. Yes he's referring to the sidepods just above the logo's. If you notice starting from the logo's at the floor the Sidepod slants towards the middle of the car. Last year there was a bit of an undercut there but this year it's overcut, which is a RB trait.

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Forza wrote:Jerez - Pre-season Test 1 - Day 4
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In thsi picture the trademark overcut shoulder shape of rb5-rb9 is more evident.
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hello

have 2 thoughts to share with you
and i hope someone could give some useful answer

1) what is the goal in having a stepped chassis as highest as possible and having then the lowest nose concept design?

2) shouldn't be the nose tip by regulations ahead the front wing leading edge? because F14-t seems to be the only car
to have it inward the front wing leading edge

thankyou!
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motobaleno
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of course it is only pontless speculation...fantaF1 :)...but my impression till now is that F14T is not such fast but it could be the one with less drag at all...during the final part of the races this could get some surprise hopefully

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Well, I suppose they expect to get lots of air going under the nose and to tea tray, just not mainly from the 'mouth' as before but also from around the nose cone. There are some drawings of this concept. Probably the high chassis is still better in achieving this, at least under their global design.

Anyway, I expect Ferrari to somehow copy Mercedes nose 'trick' to get a slightly higher and bigger mouth and get more airflow there.

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Froggolo wrote: 2) shouldn't be the nose tip by regulations ahead the front wing leading edge? because F14-t seems to be the only car
to have it inward the front wing leading edge

thankyou!
mercedes also I would say

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Any proof on the claims that Ferrari was very good on downshift's in Jerez? Seamless downshifts?

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muelte wrote:Well, I suppose they expect to get lots of air going under the nose and to tea tray, just not mainly from the 'mouth' as before but also from around the nose cone. There are some drawings of this concept. Probably the high chassis is still better in achieving this, at least under their global design.

Anyway, I expect Ferrari to somehow copy Mercedes nose 'trick' to get a slightly higher and bigger mouth and get more airflow there.
Allison said they are working on a more aggressive solution for Bahrain (chances are it could easily be something like Merc with him knowing how Lotus got around rules), so maybe they'll even show up with a third solution in Australia...
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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