Red Bull RB10 Renault

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I wonder why the teams give so much away by using a highly visible flowviz paint.
Are the same flow characteristics hard to achieve when using nearly colorless paint with e.g. UV reactive pigments?

Or is there little to gain for the other teams?
Just curious.

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I'm not sure, but i think they use the flow vis just to check if there is separation.
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cmehle wrote:I wonder why the teams give so much away by using a highly visible flowviz paint.
Are the same flow characteristics hard to achieve when using nearly colorless paint with e.g. UV reactive pigments?

Or is there little to gain for the other teams?
Just curious.
Flow viz will only show the bulk effect of all the aerodynamic appendages and surface curvatures, that too only the surface streamlines. It will be very hard to re-engineer all the causes of the flow features, i.e. the aerodynamic surfaces, from the limited idea that they obtain from the effect of these surfaces, i.e. the flow viz pattern. The devil is in the details.
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Thx, makes much more sense now!

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atanatizante wrote:http://i.imgur.com/6m6lqCU.jpg

That`s from yesterday rear brake issue or they use rear brake heat to seal the diffuser now?
I had also noticed this burn, from Jerez. At first I thought it to be dirty then I found a lot of pictures.

Here are pictures of Jerez
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It's just dirt or fine tire debris.
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djos wrote:It's just dirt or fine tire debris.
Yeah probably brake dust since it looks to be coming from the brake duct outlet.

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e30ernest wrote:
djos wrote:It's just dirt or fine tire debris.
Yeah probably brake dust since it looks to be coming from the brake duct outlet.
Nothing aerodynamically meaningful at all, i'm sure as well :?

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Coefficient wrote:This car seems a bit vanilla to me whereas the McLaren makes me think they gave up on last year in January and focused on the 29. I'm sure rb will add refinement though but at the moment this shows signs of lack of time to develop due to last year's development to win the championships.
I think that's the crux of it, last year RB had to make sure of both titles and couldn't take their foot of the gas, they're now paying for it.

The engine problems are another story though, this would have hampered their progress either way, a poor show from Renault

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e30ernest wrote:
djos wrote:It's just dirt or fine tire debris.
Yeah probably brake dust since it looks to be coming from the brake duct outlet.
Yes.

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gandharva wrote:At least they did a really good paint job on that nose.
You mean that preposterous chin.

http://youtu.be/Bc_b-qE9gl8?t=1m51s

Sorry guys, couldn't resist ^^

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Don't mean to be one sided, but i would laugh if they forgot to add the camera mounts at melbourne and got disqualified... They won't do that though, they're too smart. Not sure if it was mentioned here before but i heard something being mentioned about two different bodywork packages that rb brought today to help with cooling??

please shed some light if anyone knows
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Blackout wrote:
e30ernest wrote:
djos wrote:It's just dirt or fine tire debris.
Yeah probably brake dust since it looks to be coming from the brake duct outlet.
Yes.

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/gall ... medium.jpg
ok Right
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