Mercedes AMG F1 W05

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Little peak. Exhaust comes from below not up and over like Ferrari.
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I have to wonder now just how much DF that blown monkey seat worth? Merc have delicately curved the seat rather than use a perpendicular straight approach to yield more surface area. That exhaust pipe has direct access to that wing, there is no velocity loss as with Coanda exhausts. I have to suspect the exhaust has less velocity than that of the V8 though?

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The exhaust energy will have been used up by time it exits. It's curved just to let them run a more aggressive rear wing with a little bit of flow spread across the center to stop separation.

I don't know this for sure but it just occurred to me that the little triangles cut out of the rear wings might be to help with that same issue. Normally there is one in the center but perhaps the monkey seat sorts out the center of the wing and instead there is the need for 2 smaller ones slightly outbound. Just a thought, I'd like to hear from anyone that might know their true purpose.
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atanatizante wrote:
Another theory says that the brake drum & system vanes acts like a heater which by induction generates heat in all directions hence for the airflow which travels under the brake system vanes.
This way the airflow is energized ...
1. Could this so called "heater" be a more constant heat generator?
2. And another question is why they didn`t follow the other teams route with the rounded outer diffuser edge?
I don't see how it would be more constant without manipulation of the materials. Directing the heat isn't the same as dispersing the heat at a constant rate. Having it a constant rate is the most important aspect of this to work (that and making sure the brakes don't actually fail). I think it's possible to engineer a brake disk in such a way the heat builds up extensively under braking and after the braking phase it disperses the build up heat at a constant rate. So you are looking in the first place at that brake disks, and then if that succeeds you should find legal ways to get that heat between the edge of the diffuser and the wheel. I'd imagine the brake ducts have to be pretty forward in order to reach maximum effect.

I'm not even sure if this is what mercedes is doing, let alone other teams. Teams always have been looking for way to (ab)use the heat and air coming out of the brakes for aero benefits. It's a question of what's doable.
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the much wider central cooling outlet
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atanatizante wrote:http://imgur.com/yoqa8W4.jpg

Two things:
1. B.E.A.U.T.I.F.U.L side-pod ellipse shape
2. It`s the picture angle or they just tried a single exhaust side-pod configuration?

http://imgur.com/6Gsqu3c.jpg

1. This year they have a longer T-tray floor or it`s just me? (not in this picture)
2. For the above reason they reinforced the front corners of the T-tray floor
3. Could be another reason why they have such a high rake? or they must have a short one?
Definitely a single exhaust:
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smlbstcbr wrote:]
Definitely a single exhaust:
http://postimg.org/image/q6gfdk2vh/
If that's from today, there are plenty of photos to show that it's not the case. There would be no reason for an asymmetrical hot air outlet setup on these cars. It's just the perspective of the photo.
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otbsti wrote:
smlbstcbr wrote:]
Definitely a single exhaust:
http://postimg.org/image/q6gfdk2vh/
If that's from today, there are plenty of photos to show that it's not the case. There would be no reason for an asymmetrical hot air outlet setup on these cars. It's just the perspective of the photo.
I'm not sure, did they test the exhaust cannon in Jerez? It could be perspective, but the other side should show the bulge for the opening and it is not there.

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They have only tested the cannon engine cover in Bahrain. The other exit is symmetrical to the one in the photo, but due to the perspective/angle of the photo, it's behind the right rear tire and cannot be seen. As you can see in the photo below from today, those hot air exits are a decent distance in front of the wheel (completely in front of the front most piece of the rear suspension that you cannot see in that photo you're referencing either). The angle of that photo would not allow you to see something that far ahead of the wheel on the right side.

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Blackout wrote:the much wider central cooling outlet
http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.ph ... u=14795526
Looks like a max cooling spec; even the grills near the cockpit are bigger
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bonjon1979 wrote:
PhillipM wrote:
Shakeman wrote:Vroom vroom....
I once went to watch a local single-cylinder lawnmower race - that sounds just the same... :lol: :(
You need to make some better choices about what to do with your time. Seriously, a lawnmower race?
Yep, it was local, it was good fun, and at least I didn't pay F1-ticket money to watch a Mercedes make the same noise.

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dans79 wrote:
krisfx wrote: Times are almost completely irrelevant, they could be running heavy or down on power in comparison to the other teams for testing...
I'm talking about comparing to a known quantity, like last years qualifying times. Assuming a team isn't cheating, If someone goes out tomorrow and puts in a low 1:34 of high 1:33 people would sit up and take notice. A fast lap time is a line in the sand, or a statement of intent to your competion.
Looks like Merc are turning the wick up. Impressive number of laps completed during tests and now they're putting some quick times in. I think we can say Merc are in a good place this year.

I've also not seen any ragged tyres yet so hopefully not going to be an issue this year.

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Shakeman wrote:
dans79 wrote:
krisfx wrote: Times are almost completely irrelevant, they could be running heavy or down on power in comparison to the other teams for testing...
I'm talking about comparing to a known quantity, like last years qualifying times. Assuming a team isn't cheating, If someone goes out tomorrow and puts in a low 1:34 of high 1:33 people would sit up and take notice. A fast lap time is a line in the sand, or a statement of intent to your competion.
Looks like Merc are turning the wick up. Impressive number of laps completed during tests and now they're putting some quick times in. I think we can say Merc are in a good place this year.

I've also not seen any ragged tyres yet so hopefully not going to be an issue this year.
#-o I would normally be the first person to say testing times are irrelevant, but regardless of fuel loads, a 1:33.283 by rosberg on the soft tyres is going to be hard to ignore. By comparison that means the W05 is within a tenth of a second from pole position from last year which was 1:32.330, considering the initial impression was that the 2014 cars would be 5 seconds slower than last years.