2014 Testing - Bahrain 19-22 Feb

[radosav]

Kimi's crash.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 5l6sP8FHFA[/youtube]

[JimClarkFan]

Jenson seems to be implying that the Mercedes has lots more rear downforce compared to other cars

[321apex]

Jenson seems to be implying that the Mercedes has lots more rear downforce compared to other cars

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would read Jenson's remark as it relates to putting power down out of corners. Taking into account, that in terms of rear grip the McLaren butterfly wishbones must be of superior benefit if anything.

If such was the case, the "smart" modulation of MGU-K power input would make it seem that way. Jenson also assumes, that he has the same at his disposal as Rosberg or Hamilton, and while theoretically this may be true, in practical terms I am not certain and would not bet any money on it.

[Del Boy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtHDxhWxqq0

the 3 engines sound massively different. ferrari has definitely some trick when downshifting and merc...dunno... anyone hear something going on in middle and exit of the corner? ...but really I don't know

Apparently the Ferrari has seemless shift on downshift as well as up shift (all cars up shift seemlessly)

Vanja66 posted this back in January

"It is incredibly smooth on the downchanges. Everyone else is blipping the throttle a lot more and it's difficult to say why the Ferrari is so smooth in comparison.

All the cars have a zero torque loss upshift, seamless shift, but nobody has done that on the downshifts. With the ERS recharging from the rear wheels and the need to downchange under braking, it now might be a good idea.

We don't know for sure, but perhaps Ferrari is ahead of the game with such technology."

[Gaara]

FOM highlights from the final day of testing

And it's in HD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNcZQpSmizs

Best video from wintertesting so far =D>

[JimClarkFan]

Jenson seems to be implying that the Mercedes has lots more rear downforce compared to other cars

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would read Jenson's remark as it relates to putting power down out of corners. Taking into account, that in terms of rear grip the McLaren butterfly wishbones must be of superior benefit if anything.

If such was the case, the "smart" modulation of MGU-K power input would make it seem that way. Jenson also assumes, that he has the same at his disposal as Rosberg or Hamilton, and while theoretically this may be true, in practical terms I am not certain and would not bet any money on it.

No he said downforce, will try and find the link I have been watching...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1USj2_cuyNU

skip to Jenson @ 4.10

[321apex]

Jenson seems to be implying that the Mercedes has lots more rear downforce compared to other cars

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would read Jenson's remark as it relates to putting power down out of corners. Taking into account, that in terms of rear grip the McLaren butterfly wishbones must be of superior benefit if anything.

If such was the case, the "smart" modulation of MGU-K power input would make it seem that way. Jenson also assumes, that he has the same at his disposal as Rosberg or Hamilton, and while theoretically this may be true, in practical terms I am not certain and would not bet any money on it.

No he said downforce, will try and find the link I have been watching...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1USj2_cuyNU

skip to Jenson @ 4.10

He kinda said something about DF but not clearly what he was alluding to or whom. Perhaps Bahrain is a track known to put premium on cars with rear grip and he felt McL don't have it while someone else does.

But really if that is the case, then perhaps he intentionally misleads in order to protect the benefit of the butterfly rear suspension, which they use and would prefer that if it was effective, no one else would get motivated enough to re-engineer their cars.

I am never the first one to believe what competitors or teams say in public. Reading between the lines is more effective.

[mrluke]

Jenson seems to be implying that the Mercedes has lots more rear downforce compared to other cars

From the video he seems to say that Mercedes probably aren't struggling for DF due to their laptime.

I think all you can read into that is that JB doesnt feel he has enough DF to match the laptime done by Mercedes.

[321apex]

Jenson seems to be implying that the Mercedes has lots more rear downforce compared to other cars

From the video he seems to say that Mercedes probably aren't struggling for DF due to their laptime.

I think all you can read into that is that JB doesnt feel he has enough DF to match the laptime done by Mercedes.

Downforce has many uses.
So then do you think hem means "grip in the corner" or "putting power down" ?????

If grip in the corner, then McLarens butterfly susp hepling their diffusor is useless or he siply lies to protect this technology form being copied.
If "power down" then Mercedes did not provide McLaren with the same sophisticated system they are using themselves.

[Lazy]

FOM highlights from the final day of testing

And it's in HD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNcZQpSmizs

Best video from wintertesting so far =D>

Love these cars, great noise too.

[motobaleno]

FOM highlights from the final day of testing

And it's in HD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNcZQpSmizs

Best video from wintertesting so far =D>

also from the video kimi crash does not seem so casual: it seems connected with the lack of traction...he was near to loose control in the former corner exit too...maybe he was trying to put more power down while exiting corner...

[daveyrace]

FOM highlights from the final day of testing

And it's in HD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNcZQpSmizs

Best video from wintertesting so far =D>

The engine sounds are quite different, the Mercedes has a definite deep throaty rumble compared to the Ferrari which seems more metallic. The Renault in the Lotus which was pushing the most sounded quite smooth, have to wait till they all turn them up.

What was quite surprising was hearing the tyre squeal on Jenson's car whilst cornering at about 3:50 into the video over the engine noise. They really must be quite a bit quieter.

[Blackout]

It's me or the Merc and Mclaren seem to rely mainly on the Kers in the pit lane ?

[SiLo]

It's me or the Merc and Mclaren seem to rely mainly on the Kers in the pit lane ?

I'm wondering if they are practicing using ERS to run through the pit lane so that they can save fuel for the race. Every little counts.

[langwadt]

It's me or the Merc and Mclaren seem to rely mainly on the Kers in the pit lane ?

I'm wondering if they are practicing using ERS to run through the pit lane so that they can save fuel for the race. Every little counts.

I don't see how it could save them anything. All the energy still has to come from the fuel, electric power used in the pit lane is just less electric power to use on the track