2014 Testing - Bahrain 27 Feb - 2 Mar

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Ganxxta wrote:At least according to F1Fanatic the maximum (officially recorded?) speed in Bahrain was 314kph, so those 340kph is something that one first have to achieve, let alone with 1.6l V6s.

Alonso was already measured with 336 I believe last week.

This "75HP less than Mercedes" rumor looks like total BS to me, or Ferrari has a drag coefficient of a Prius...
But in case of AUMS post they clearly wrote the top speed of F14T si 339 KM/ph.

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bosanac1 wrote: 7. Marussia
8. Red Bull

9. Toro Rosso
10. Catheram
11. Lotus
Marussia ahead of Red Bull, and Caterham ahead of Lotus? Now that's bold! :shock:

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dren wrote:1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari +0.3
3. McLaren +0.5
4. Williams +0.6
5. FI +0.7
6. RB +1.2
Rest
This sounds most believable. I can't see Williams farther up than fourth, but it seems a lot of people think they're going to be fighting for the win in Melbourne.
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1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari +0.9
3. McLaren +1.1
4. Williams +1.2
5. FI +1.7
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F1.Ru wrote:
Ganxxta wrote:At least according to F1Fanatic the maximum (officially recorded?) speed in Bahrain was 314kph, so those 340kph is something that one first have to achieve, let alone with 1.6l V6s.

Alonso was already measured with 336 I believe last week.

This "75HP less than Mercedes" rumor looks like total BS to me, or Ferrari has a drag coefficient of a Prius...
But in case of AUMS post they clearly wrote the top speed of F14T si 339 KM/ph.

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339,6 or 340 as I said, you want to argue about 0.4kph?

I just wanted to say that at least on topspeed they are the fastest, and to reach those top speeds with such amount of downforce/drag a lot of engine power is needed...

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F1.Ru wrote:
Ganxxta wrote:At least according to F1Fanatic the maximum (officially recorded?) speed in Bahrain was 314kph, so those 340kph is something that one first have to achieve, let alone with 1.6l V6s.

Alonso was already measured with 336 I believe last week.

This "75HP less than Mercedes" rumor looks like total BS to me, or Ferrari has a drag coefficient of a Prius...
But in case of AUMS post they clearly wrote the top speed of F14T si 339 KM/ph.

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Actually it says 339,6km/h. On picture we saw earlier we have seen speeds without and decimal digits which would mean that everything that it lower than X.5 is rounded as X, while X.5 or faster is rounded as X+1

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Stupid predictions which are based on nothing...
And facts say that the Williams for example proved to be more reliable and was faster than the Mclaren when both did their race sims in day2. The Williams was fastser even when the Mclaren used the softer tires in it last stint. So why place the Mclaren ahead? useless predictions anyway.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb:

1. Mercedes
2. RedBull +0.4
3. McLaren +0.8
4. Ferrari +0.9
4. Williams +1.2
5. Lotus +1.4
6. FI +1.7

I think that if that RedBull gets going, it's gonna be quick, and the only reason it'll be behind is due to a lack of running in testing.

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scuderiafan wrote:
dren wrote:1. Mercedes
2. Ferrari +0.3
3. McLaren +0.5
4. Williams +0.6
5. FI +0.7
6. RB +1.2
Rest
This sounds most believable. I can't see Williams farther up than fourth, but it seems a lot of people think they're going to be fighting for the win in Melbourne.
I don't dare to say anything about the speed of certain teams, but I do think the Williams has proven to be very reliable (I think the most reliable team of them all in testing?)
Given that, I give them a good chance at a podium in Melbourne, even if they're only 4th fastest.
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[armchair critic]
I would not be surprised to see Williams slugging it out with McLaren, or indeed even besting them early in the season. Whether they have the wherewithal to keep it up for an entire season, I don't know. But I do hope that Massa gets another shot at glory. He deserves it.

McLaren doesn't look all that good to me, frankly. Force India does not seem so fast, but at least the look solid so they may grab a lot of points early in the season due to others' failure, if the tests are any indication of reliability and consistency.

I wonder where Ferrari will be, though. I just pray Alonso won't have to carry that car on his back for another season.

Finally, I expect RBR to work it out and be competitive at least for the second half of the season, and possibly much sooner.
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1. Mercedes - Red Bull
2. Williams - Ferrari
3. Mclaren
4. Force India - Lotus
5. Sauber - Toro Rosso
6. Marussia
7. Caterham
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bhallg2k wrote:The only way to use more fuel this year is to stay on the throttle longer, because all engines will use the same amount of fuel from 10,500-15,000 RPM regardless of the power produced. Fuel-flow in that range is capped at 100kg/hour in the regulations.

Now, it will be the case on some circuits that teams will have to back off the throttle occasionally during the race in order to comply with the regulation that limits overall fuel consumption to 100kg. It won't be necessary at every circuit, but when it is, it will affect all teams. In that way, it won't be very different from the tire-saving strategies we've seen over the last couple of years.

Incidentally, Bahrain is likely to be one of those circuits given its acceleration-heavy layout of slow corners and fast straights. These 2012 figures from Renault support that.
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SectorOne wrote:1. Mercedes - Red Bull
2. Williams - Ferrari
3. Mclaren
4. Force India - Lotus
5. Sauber - Toro Rosso
6. Marussia
7. Caterham
+1
- Mercedes has advantage of good car, homegrown PU and... two very quick drivers.
- Red Bull with Vettel will be dominant force when/IF they sort cooling issues
- Williams, imho, will do good at least at the beginning and it would be interesting to see what Bottas may do with decent car.
- Ferrari will do more than deserves because of drivers.
- McLaren. I don't think Button can bring more and Kevin is rookie.
- FI will do good (but fall behind during season) and they will engage Mclaren and Ferrari in battles.
- Others will have more reliability problems and simply lack of pace but I expect some nice surprises there also.

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Lol look at old Frank. Like a boss. He must be pleased with that Mercedes deal.

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RB10 brake failure:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYAokFHJzyg[/youtube]

Ted's Notebook 3rd test Bahrain day 4 (final pre-season test day before Melbourne):

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49TPjpFA1ag[/youtube]

Fernando Alonso' pit stop practice:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1cvPlXadqY[/youtube]

Nico Hulkenberg Pit stop practice:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrqsyW9VjVM[/youtube]
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